There was some commercial that kept playing during football season....it was (Ravens coach) John Harbaugh saying something like "you've got the hearts of lions. Good things, bad things, it doesn't matter." You should Google it, I'm sure you can find the vid. The commercial showcases women's sporty jerseys with some really creative styling IMHO. Check it out!

Anna, the Rodarte top is very you. I love the idea of styling it in fun, creative ways. I also thought of a turtleneck which may or may not work.

If money is not an object, I say, why not? My only objection to a garment like this is the price. Although it's possible I've missed it, so far I haven't seen anyone else style a sports jersey in a cool way on this forum. I look forward to your interpretation.

While I'm here I want to say I always appreciate your fearless and pro-fashion viewpoint on this forum. This is a fashion forum, but lately I've been sensing an anti-fashion mood. I might be alone in this, in which case it must be me, but I am curious if others feel this way too.

Cocolion, I'm not sure what you mean. I know the forum isn't always showcasing the most adventurous pieces. But personally, the more adventurous pieces are by definition often difficult, and they don't always hit my eye as attractive or well-used, and I try to be direct and honest. (Sometimes the less adventurous pieces/outfits don't hit me either, but since many people are just gaining their footing I don't think it's kind to beat them down. People trying more advanced trends should, I think, be able to deal with a nay vote since they're in advanced territory; not everything advanced "works," you know?) But I don't see an active "I hate fashion" theme going on. Can you expand on this?

No, I have also sensed what Denise is saying. I've been here over five years. I have tried at various points recently to discuss Fashion but have generated few responses.
Very few forum members identify themselves as the Trendy Fashionista. It gets lonely at times.
ETA how many of the nays knew Rodarte?

Raising my hand, well aware of Rodarte's sisters, their history and the fashion line.

Raising my hand too. I have watched their line from the beginning. I just don't like this piece.

I watch your posts, AG, and am curious which of them are the ones where you wanted to Discuss Fashion. Not being a Trendy Fashionista doesn't mean we don't like to talk about it, even if many of us cannot or don't dress that way.

If you don't want honest feedback Anna, don't ask for it in a "Yay" or "Nay" post. Just post a 'look at this awesome jersey' type.

A discussion involves both speaking and listening.

I like Rodarte, but I don't care for this particular jersey. I know the type is their logo, but it feels like an afterthought in the design. I think the looks incorporating a jersey are kind of fun though, so if you love this particular one and it's worth the coin to you, then go for it!

I do think I've noticed a little of what Denise mentions. I'm certainly not anti-fashion. I enjoy the more adventurous and high-end but can only participate so much, ya know?

I don't mind honest feedback. But there have been plenty of times where I get a lot of resistance. I remember when I first was seeking out mint items a couple of years ago I got a lot of negative responses. Turns out it is a great color for me & I could get make a pastel edgy.
If you are unsure of an item, that's ok. That's why I included the pins, because the actual item photograph isn't very good. For many items as I've said in the past it's all about the styling. I should have perhaps photographed the item styled for full assessment. But with my schedule it's hard.
My perception, and perhaps it's wrong that if something lies completely outside of a Angie pick or outfit suggestion it's just not as popular. Which is perhaps how it should be. Some people have said that this is the only fashion blog/site they read. I like to read many sites & sources. It's a hobby for me.

AG, when you push the envelope, you will get pushback. It's just how it works. The forum can be wrong, as in mint, or it can be right sometimes as well...

Thanks Dana, you were much more succinct than I was flailing around trying to explain.

I would take it a step further and say there is no "wrong" or "right" -- everyone has opinions, and like we've said on other threads, we are all totally free to take other's opinions and do with them whatever we like, even if it means ignoring them. Some opinions will weigh more with an individual than others do, depending on whose style choices resonate deeply with our own. As Angie says, horses for courses.

You know, I've often thought that if some of the more avant-garde and high fashion looks often featured on blog sites were posted here, they would get negative feedback. That is the trouble with "fashion by committee". We can tend to go for relatively mainstream looks and resist anything that's out of our comfort zone.

I think that if you want to be daring, you just need to go for it. If everybody were comfortable with it right off the bat it wouldn't be daring.

I have been in an anti-fashion mood, that's true. For awhile I've felt the collections have been just a wee lackluster and the never-ending show season disorienting. I'm a little confused by the total eclipse of couture by pret-a-porter, as well. And I'm a little tired of every celebrity becoming a designer, of everybody being a designer. I wouldn't mind a weed-out, quite frankly.

On another track - It can be hard to see the fashion in the fashion. Esp. when it comes to things like equestrian, military, sporty, tribal... There's a weird-out factor. It's weird to think about "riding boots" that will never see muck...

For me, it's the feeling that some people are not happy with the current styles. Not happy with retail, the shopping experience. Not happy with trends, like the 90s coming back.

Also, honestly I don't really understand the criticism of "wannabe" or "trying too hard." I applaud anyone taking risks with fashion. THAT is interesting and stimulating to me. It may or may not work, but I don't judge them for being wannabe (so I thought you were being harsh on yourself Anna).

A few weeks ago I was watching this new internet series with Seinfeld. It's called "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" on a new streaming network called Crackle. In it Seinfeld sees a young man dressed in black with a dramatic Mohawk haircut. He jokes, "I hate people like that. They are so pretentious." This is what I'm talking about, this to me is a fashion or style hating stance.

I find that there are those on this forum who have conservative tastes, don't like to shop, don't want to stray from very many silhouettes. Maybe I'm just confused because that kind of person seems like a non- fashion involved person. Yet they participate regularly on the forum. I feel this viewpoint is valid and yes, it's interesting to me to on a certain level because it's so different from myself. I'm just saying -- sometimes it's a downer for me.

I am one of those people who tend to be more conservative with fashion choices. I don't usually like ultra trendy things. I personally try to look appropriate, wear looks that are flattering to my body, and that are kinda classic but current. For me, though, my opinion regarding this particular top has nothing to do with it looking ugly or cute, appropriate or inappropriate, flattering or unflattering, etc. Instead, it is about the wearer looking like a poser (sorry, not sure how to explain it). What I mean is, to me it looks like a girl who is into fashion and just acting like she likes sports (why? ) instead of actually following a team or knowing anything about sports. People who are real sports fans would roll their eyes. Just explaining my personal opinion regarding my reaction to this particular piece. YMMV.

Oh I see, Cocolion. Yeah, I think there is occasionally burnout on the forum.

I think you could totally rock this jersey, Anna.

Just want to add a quick question: if the whole forum loved an item you posted and all rushed out to copy, would that not make you question how edgy or cool the item really is?

You aim for individuality (as do I without the depth of designer knowledge you have, just my own path) in a way not everyone here does. KWIM? And that is going to be reflected in feedback.

I am always more than ready to discuss anything - if only I had time!

As far as Denise's comments on the forum, again, I think some are here with a true passion for fashion; others (and I fell into this category when I first joined) want to know how to look their best consistently style-wise and aren't interested in the vagaries of runway trends. Surely there is room for both.

Anna - I love it. Okay, so sports jerseys are a sentimental favorite of mine. Although I don't have one now, but I met my husband in anatomy lab, and he loved my "Property of the NY Jets" t -shirt and the rest is history!! I think they are fun and and if it calls to you I think you can style it in an awesome way. When you play an item like this against type with high fashion pieces, statement necklace, fab boyfriend or tux jacket, killer heels, I think it's just plain fun!!

Una, great point -- yes there is room for both types on this forum.

And Petitesanonymous, thanks for explaining your POV. I think this is difference in viewpoint. Does wearing a sports jersey in a fashion context qualify as "ironic dressing," or does it make you a "poser?" I choose to call it irony, maybe I'm missing something but I always understood "poser" to be a put-down.

Poseur is an insult. I think *maybe* PA is saying that she would interpret the look as someone not giving the proper respect to sports, sortof making fun of it or using it, not really understanding or respecting the sport it represents. Much like some other YLF readers interpreted using native American or other ethnic patterns and motifs without understanding where they came from.

Late to the party but I can totally see you wearing this jersey. I love how adventurous you are with fashion. I'm much more conservative in my tastes so I live vicariously through you.

To clarify what I mean by "poser"...I feel like being a poser is to pretend to be something you're not. I actually do appreciate the idea of wearing it ironically, but IIRC the OP mentioned having a sporty side. If she is sporty, why not wear a real jersey? (They can be styled quite nicely. :-)) I think a "designer" style jersey conveys the message, instead, that you are not into sports at all or are for some reason just pretending to. No offense intended by my posts by the way! I'm sure the OP finds my clothes incredibly dull. Different strokes for different folks right?

Sounds like people are going to think what they are going to think -- horses for courses, fashion is subjective, all that stuff. The question is whose opinion (no one? yourself?) matters, if at all?

"What I mean is, to me it looks like a girl who is into fashion and just acting like she likes sports"

I think that's what I meant when I said it's hard to see the fashion in the fashion.

You know, every time I go into The Big City, I am quite frankly struck by how, ahem, clownish people look. I have very rude thoughts. Thoughts like: Why are you wearing cowboy boots? The closet you come to cow is a soy burger! And you, you over there! What is the point of you all together? Is your dissertation work on the use of the word "and" in bodice rippers deserving of even one soy burger? Is it? Is it?! Aaaaahhh!!!!

After a little while, though, I remember what cities are about and how they function. They are places to collide and trade. There are some interesting side effects, artifacts, and by-products - and capital-F Fashion is one of them. As are museums and opera houses. Go anywhere else, and cowboy boots mean "I wrangle cows." In the city, they mean something more like, "I wrangle latte lines and yoga mats, and live where the brick has been exposed."

Oh, I guess I live in The Big City now. I forgot. It's why I'm looking for faux leather overalls, which are fundamentally inexplicable.

petites -

why not wear a real jersey?

I have to respond to that one. The OP is sporty but she's also a denizen of the metaphorical, literal-yet-figurative Big City. And a real jersey in the Big City is just ghetto... I know I know, but I swear it's true.

Ha ha, I grew up in the country with actual cowboys. For this reason, I will never rock a cowboy boot. To me they just look so....unfashionable. lol!

Rachylou: which city? I live in Sacramento, CA. Only Oakland jerseys are ghetto. Wearing a local jersey (Sacramento Kings, San Francisco 49ers, SF Giants, etc) is fine on game day (wouldn't want to wear it every day).

Okay, I get it. I want to change my vote to "go for it!" Thanks for the thought-provoking discussion! I don't happen to see one single thing wrong with sending the message that says "I am super into fashion and I also recognize that right now professional sports, and my team in particular, are Having A Moment, so I am choosing to recognize that in my own special Super Into Fashion way!"

Well, of course, The Big City is a state of mind as much as one of the actual cities of the world. Hehe.

But Annagybe, the OP, is up in the Seattle metropolis. I'm in the SF Bay Area (born and raised).

Ok, now. I'm gonna have to split hairs with you, you Sacramento gal! Oakland jerseys are wratchett, but all jerseys are ghetto anywhere not a stadium