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Wardrobe size?

Stagiaire Fash

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This site is all about curating your wardrobe to be just right for your style and your life. Some people have lots of items in their closets, dressers, and dressing rooms; others take pride in their small collections. How did you decide how many articles of clothing you want to have?

I’m in the middle of sorting out my wardrobe for a likely move and body change. Preparing is important to me because it is a huge task, and as encouragement to continue towards my (non-wardrobe related) goals. I have just realized that the target number I’ve had in mind is entirely arbitrary, selected only because it has such lovely digits. There must be a better way.

I am aware of the benefit of a small footprint throughout my lifestyle. I see that as a good reason to buy less clothing. I also see it as a reason *not* to discard clothing here and buy new there. The fee for transporting a suitcase, and the environmental cost of doing so, are much less than the costs of producing and purchasing all new things.

What has led to your decisions about wardrobe size?

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Stagiaire Fash

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Please be positive in comments. To make these changes, I’m strugggling against negativity elsewhere in my life, so comments like the following are really much more damaging than they might otherwise be, and I’d ask you to refrain.
as far as not having your body in the condition or location ( whatever that means) you wish it were ....well , welcome to the club

Thanks!

Sal

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A couple of years ago I counted my wardrobe size and got to approximately 100. Since then I suspect it has grown to closer to 115 but I have not counted in over a year.

This size works for me for the following reasons:

1) It fits in my closet - a small Walk in robe that is shared, and a chest of drawers. I do swap winter and summer out which is about 20% of the closet. This is mostly for the shoes and the sweaters which is where I get a bit tight for room.
2) I rarely have issues with laundry (we do have a washer/dryer/outside line/clothes horse/temperate climate/sports loving sons though which means I am always doing laundry).
3) I always have something I can find appropriate for various occasions that crop up. I do occasionally get it wrong (too cold or hot, or choose an outfit that I don't love) but I rarely need to panic buy for anything. My dressy work capsule is extremely small but I have enough for foreseeable occasions.
4) It is not overwhelming but it is not boring to me either.

I have added more in 2017 than in the last three years but I have also chosen well. However I do not want to keep adding at this rate because then my wardrobe will grow too large unless I pass on more than I need to.

rachylou

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I have a massive wardrobe because 1) I like clothes. I’d rather have a new sweater than go out to dinner, which is a conundrum - because where will I wear my new sweater? lol

And 2) I’m a neurotic laundress. I want to wash like with like and I want to have enough, oh say socks, to justify a load.

But I don’t actually deal with all of it at once. I switch out for summer and winter, and then operate with monthly themed capsules for the fun of it.

I still think the biggest deal for me has been keeping my clothes proportional to how I really like to spend my time. More dog walking clothes than evening gowns, if you know what I mean. I mean, I used to have a lot of pointless clothes... cut a lot of excess that way.

binkle

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I've never set a numerical goal. My wardrobe has developed with the needs of my working life. And monetary considerations. Started after college in a creative, and casual field, where work clothes could be worn on the weekend too. For the last 20 years I've had a more buttoned up office job in conservative offices, so most of the things I bought had to work for work. Since the weekend is only 2 days, and DH and I are not social creatures, I didn't feel justified in spending more on a lot of casual or dressy stuff.

Unfortunately I am a stress shopper and easily slip into the "treat yourself" mode. And my office went business casual every day - thus more excuses to buy. So I know my wardrobe is much larger than it needs to be, with too many seldom-worn impulse pieces. I really just end up wearing the same combinations to death. I don't mind repeating.

If 60% of my wardrobe vanished tomorrow, I would definitely survive!

Sorry I don't have a number suggestion. It did help me to track my work outfits - that really clarified what I was getting a lot of wears from.

Bonnie

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My wardrobe is a work in progress but one thing I do know is that I have too many tops. I counted my tops and dresses and if I divide that number into the days I will be wearing them (I don't count hiking days - that's a separate wardrobe) I will wear each top/dress 3 times a year. I need to work on refining my wardrobe, not just adding to it.

SarahD8

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The trouble with the question of wardrobe size is the same as with 30x30, project 333 inspired efforts, etc.: what does your count include and what does it leave out?

For me, I am usually wearing a four-piece outfit: bottoms, top, cardi (yes even in summer), and shoes.

I have a goal of wearing each item of clothing that is part of my "everyday casual" wardrobe 10 times a year. This is a somewhat arbitrary benchmark but it feels about right to me for various reasons.

Thus, I know I can't accumulate more than 36 items in each of those four categories or there just won't be enough days in the year to wear them.

So my maximum "everyday" wardrobe size is 144.

That's probably more than I strictly need to satisfy my yen for variety tbh. I am happy wearing bottoms and shoes more often.

I think my wardrobe is somewhat smaller than that right now, but I haven't counted recently.

Do items really get worn perfectly evenly? Nah. Inevitably some workhorse items are worn more and some items with more specific applications are worn less.

That's ok. It's really more of a mental benchmark, to remind me that there are only so many opportunities to wear clothes!

Tl;dr: I think the point is that rather than identifying an overall number you have to dig a little deeper and ask how often you wear certain types of garments, how many times a year you want to wear each one, how many years you ideally want items to stay in your wardrobe, etc. Then you know how many of each type of item it makes sense to have, and the "right" wardrobe size is simply the sum of those categories.

*cross posted with Bonnie who is on the same wavelength!*

SarahD8

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Oh, also: one of the most helpful things I have ever read about wardrobe planning is this post by la belle demimondaine:

http://labelledemimondaine.blo.....g-for.html

It's not about numbers per se but again the "right" wardrobe size would emerge from your analysis of what climates you experience throughout the year, how long you spend in each, and the activities you do in each.

DonnaF

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I don’t have a set number but my needs/wants are heavily dictated by climate and laundry. Like rachylou, I only like to wash full loads of similar items. I only wash my exercise socks when I’m out. This means it would be weeks in between wears if my white jeans and white shirts. This means I have several of each but in slightly different cuts. I also don’t like to do laundry when I visit my MIL or DD. This means I have to have sufficient underwear and capsule clothing for those particular climates which are a bit different from home.

I could have a smaller wardrobe if I were willing to repeat more and to stick to either drapey or structured cuts. I find it challenging to mix stiff tailored cuts with drapey ones.

Finally, I am very temperature sensitive so a five degree change affects what I am willing to wear so that results in more items.

Stagiaire Fash

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Thank you all for the replies. You’ve given me a lot to think about.

Sal, amazing that you just slipped into that number that people seem to choose as a target. And those are good ideas of what to look at, thanks. Are you using “clothes horse” the way we do, to refer to someone who wears a lot of clothes, or is it part of your clothes-cleaning operation?

Rachylou and Binkie, you’re on the same team, evidently. After tracking wears, did you remove something you really didn’t wear, or do you use this simply as a guide in choosing what to buy? My wardrobe has grown and grown and grown. It’s too much to take with us, and this time i don’t want to store anything in my parents’ attic.

Bonnie and SarahD8 (funny how the replies have paired up). I just did that division problem for my bottoms. Very eye-opening! Very.
Sarah, thanks for the link to LBD’s post. What great wardrobe/lifestyle analysis.

anne

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To some extent, for me it is a function of storage space - I like my clothes to look relatively uncrowded in my wardrobe or drawers (I have one drawer that is stuffed at the moment, and therefore ripe for culling)

Like Sal, I haven't counted for awhile, but I think the total is somewhere between 90-110.

Apart from that it is some compromise between having enough items to cover different activities, laundry, variety etc (as other have said above).

I am big repeater compared to many here, but different seasons mean different items, so I'll wear say my hot summer capsule a lot, but not all year. Work clothes however, are worn year round, apart from the tops (I always want long sleeves in winter)

My focus has tended to be much more on how many things I add, rather than wardrobe size per se. I generally go for about 12-20 a year, (excluding socks, stocking and knickers) though I've often been handed down things in addition to that. This year it was 13, next year I anticipate lots of replacements so more like 20.

If I had to I could cut down my wardrobe more. There are several items that I don't wear much - e.g., that pink skirt I showed recently, a couple of items that only fit at the bottom of my weight fluctuation, another lovely dress that is sleeveless boucle. But while I have room, and like them all, I'll keep them.

I am not sure, however, that any of this question is that helpful in your situation of planning to make a big move. I can relate to not necessarily wanting to just start again and the waste that involves.

Emily K

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I began with a strategy that I gleaned from the internet: First, you analyze your life and your activities and how many days or hours you spend doing each. Then, you take your laundry habits into account and figure out how many outfits you need to clothe yourself for those tasks. You do this for each season that requires different clothing. So, for me, I spend 2-3 hours daily walking the dog. The bulk of my time, I spend casually at home. About twice a week, I desire to dress up a little to go shopping. Once a week we go out to a "nice" dinner. About once a month, I dress up a little more to go out with friends. So, taking laundry frequency (I do laundry daily, but wouldn't want to have less than a week's supply of clothing available) and mix-and-matchability and desire for variety into account, I would want about 7-10 casual outfits, 2 or more smart casual outfits, and at least 1 or 2 sets of nicer pieces for the dinners out, maybe something a little extra for the dinners with friends. You can collapse the numbers a bit if you do a lot of mix and match and/or you do laundry very frequently. Also, this is bare bones--if you desire more change or more options, you have to factor that into the count. I am a uniform dresser with a small wardrobe. My entire wardrobe is in my finds--if you want to see what I've put into capsules.

Caro in Oz

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It is good to have a flexible goal but I don't think it's only about the numbers. Personal space, style & lifestyle are obviously important as is how you view fast fashion. It also depends how often you repeat outfits/items; how often you wash your clothes; & the number of seasons you have. It took me a fair amount of time & thought to get all these aspects working well together. The best thing I ever did was record purchases, CPW & how I felt in my outfits. If I didn't like them (they had to be 9+ out of 10) then I worked out what it was that was wrong & tweaked them accordingly. While doing the above the numbers seemed to reduce without me having to think about them too much.

Gigi

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For me, my wardrobe size is dictated by space, financial constraints, and an emotional inability to deal with clutter. I would say I have a medium-sized wardrobe, I think around 150 pieces. That covers four seasons (I live in the upper Midwest).

I could technically fit more items in my closet by using special cascading hangers, but I really can't stand the difficulty of sifting through clothes to find the piece I want, and I hate it when it is difficult to get to an item because everything is crammed into a small space.

If I had more money and space, I would most likely have a larger wardrobe. I think I would have to have a walk-in closet at that point, because I tend to forget what clothing I have, and a walk-in closet makes things much more visible.

I did not decide on my wardrobe size at any particular point. I just started buying pieces of clothing that I was attracted to, and my wardrobe started to grow. At a particular point, maybe at around 100 pieces, I found that I had much more ability to mix and match to create new outfits. So I would just focus on building your wardrobe one piece at a time and see what happens. You will probably gain clarity about wardrobe size over time.

Sal

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Maybe a clothes airer is what you call it/ not sure why we call it a horse!!

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rachylou

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I’ve only ever tracked wears in an eyeball-it kind of way. And I’ll do things like wear one thing heavily for a month and not again for the rest of the year, which can mess with my eyeballing - But, basically, yes I’ve tossed the unworn and stopped buying for capsules that are full, relative to their slice of the activity pie.

My second to last move, I did a big downsize. I put together a wardrobe, that I’d move in with, that I thought would cover all the bases with a few colour schemes in mind (so not minimal, but definitely selective). Then I put a lot in a big holding zone - and that was very interesting. I went through the hassle of digging out quite a lot I missed having around, but after awhile I stopped going back for stuff. That was a good exercise.

rachylou

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I say, how will you move your stuff? I had a friend who moved back to Hawaii and she did a shipping container of a certain size - which definitely gave her a limit. Even tho she was going to Hawaii, well, she passed a lot of shorts on to us friends...

Katerina

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I have a rather large wardrobe. From time to time, I struggle with space and I do wardrobe revisions twice a year. I live in Northern Europe, so there is a need for dressing for four seasons.
My wardrobe is quite well adjusted to my lifestyle. I usually do not purchase clothes which do not fit my style or lifestyle (which I used to do in the past) - such as very high heels, small handbags etc. I have worked in corporate or business casual environments for years, so I didn’t have to make any dramatic style changes throughout the years in this respect.

Caro in Oz mentioned fast fashion. Well, I am not a fan. Ideally, I love quality items which are timeless and I want to own them for years and years. This, however, makes it often difficult for me to part with the pieces which have passed their prime and it takes discipline for me to keep my wardrobe size manageable. I tried the strategy of buying less new items, but not very successfully . I love the process of looking for some new great finds for my wardrobe. It is so much fun. Thus, I tried to improve the quality of the purchases, By that I mean getting the right pieces, which then leads to not buying as many. And, as they say, practice makes perfect I am slowly improving the skill.

I have a lot of accessories such as scarves, shawls and costume jewelry, in proportion to other clothes far more than “needed”. This is my way to create different outfits and it gives me the joy of creating new combos. Practical for traveling too, an easy way to achieve variation with less volume.

From time to time during the years, I have tried to downsize my wardrobe, tried to be one of the people who take pride in their small effective collections and I failed. It is not who I am. So I embraced my large wardrobe and I have fun with it.

I am not sure if this helps you in your situation, but to me, it was important to embrace who I am and work with it and not against it.

Kathie

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My wardrobe size is largely dictated by space, and the fact that I don’t mind repeating outfits. I prefer to keep everything in my closet, so have 4 seasons in a small closet plus dresser. I do cull about 2x/year. Items that are worn out, as well as items I haven’t worn in 2 years, get passed along to better homes. For any season, I have enough tops/bottoms/third pieces to have 7-10 different outfits for work (business casual.) I have two black suits for the few times each year that I need business formal. For weekends, I have a small capsule, 4-5 bottoms, maybe 1/2 dozen tops. As for adding to my wardrobe, I keep a list of items that appear to be wardrobe holes or laundry bottlenecks, and add in those areas.

Do give yourself the mental time/energy that you need to figure out what works for you. I started being more deliberate in how I shaped my closet about 5 years ago. After a cross-country move 2.5 years ago, I now have a wardrobe that works really well for me, but it certainly wasn’t an overnight or even 2-3 month process.

Anonymous

Hi. I have a medium sized wardrobe. A medium sized wardrobe allows me to get dressed every single day for the planned activity. This size wardrobe evolved organically. I did not plan anything or set down a specific number. In fact, when I joined YLF I thought of myself as a minimalist. With time I come to understand I crave variety. As I added that variety in, my wardrobe size naturally grew. Today I do my best to practice One In - One Out.

rachylou

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Oh, back to say, personally, defining a style persona has helped me a lot. My persona is Quirky Waif. Quirky Waif likes themes. My current is ‘Country Punk.’ It grew out of a thing here in YLF - Who would you be in the Zombie Apocalypse?

I tried a style statement, but while that described how I live, how I think, it never gave me a visual on the clothes. Asking if something ‘was me’ also didn’t work, because I interpreted that to mostly mean ‘does it look good on?’ It just let too much through. And saying I liked certain types of garments also let too much in the old closet. I like a lot of stuff! That’s just not good enough criteria. A list of words also didn’t cut it: it missed the gestalt. I like funky, but funky isn’t the spirit I want in the main. And finally purely functional criteria - bakery, cold temps, office - is a Yes but No. Too generic.

Asking the right question helps weed.

Staysfit

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I live in a four season climate, but two of the seasons are short, so effectively the seasons can be divided into Spring/Summer and Fall/Winter. I have two separate wardrobes, each with about 150 items, all 300 items fit into my walk in closet that is shared with DH, plus I store gear and undergarments in a dresser and we have a separate closet for outdoor coats. My wardrobe size is dictated not only by climate and space but by activity. I have a professional life which requires a certain level of formal dress, but I can also wear casual clothing including jeans, so aiming for business casual works in most circumstances. I try to go 3-4 weeks without repetition of outfits because I am a very visible person in my workplace and community. Like everyone, I have favorite items that I end up repeating more frequently than intended. I don’t alter my wardrobe on weekends although I may end up wearing gear if I am involved in an outdoor activity, and if I’m home I pick from the casual end of my wardrobe. I am making many fewer purchases, and I continue to eliminate items from my closet as they wear out or seem inappropriate for my style. I have been eliminating more than I purchase.

I have figured out which pieces I love most, and which I go to just because they are there. I feel an obligation to wear them, because I have them already, they are nice, they look great, but I could easily cut them from my wardrobe and never miss them. If you have anything like that, I would cull them and keep the rest. If I needed to move or downsize, all this type of item would be pulled out and given either to DD or to a local charity.

I love Marie Kondo. I think it’s easiest to do with another person. Have someone else hand you each item and in a split second decide if you love it or not. They will see the look flash on your face and keep you honest. DD did it with me once and it was very helpful. No second guessing. I haven’t missed a single item that was eliminated.

LaPed

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I moved cross-country two years ago, and also 2.5 years before that, and spent the year before that mostly traveling/living out of a backpack. At ~120 items, my wardrobe is larger than it's ever been before.

I'd actually planned to get rid of a lot when we left LV, but then DH's employer offered us a relocation package which included a real mover for free, so we went ahead and threw everything, all of our secondhand Ikea furniture and whatnot, into the big truck and let them ship it across the country for us.

My 120 includes gear, since I have a lot of crossover between gear and casual wear, but not small items like socks/underwear/etc. Does jewelry count? I don't count it because it's in a box, not in the closet. Do winter accessories count? I don't even know which ones are mine and which ones belong to DH (except for a couple scarves he'd never wear), because they're all just tossed into a big basket by the door.

I don't Kondo, because a lot of my time is spent doing stuff that I would rather not subject my "good" clothes to: hauling firewood, cleaning the chicken coop, scooping dog poo, yard and garden work, ongoing home improvement/reno projects. So, having a big pile of crappy t-shirts and a few pairs of ill-fitting Carhartts is absolutely essential to my lifestyle, but not to my street style. I know Kondo has some nuances beyond "sparking joy" that acknowledge the more utilitarian angle, but I haven't delved that deeply into it.

When I do realize I have something nice and in good condition that doesn't work/doesn't fit/etc, I try to get rid of it while it's still current, either via eBay or consignment. Whatever number I have in my wardrobe right now, it finally feels functional across all four seasons, so I'm trying not to let it grow too much or shrink too much.

cindysmith

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I've had to severely restrict the size of my wardrobe for the last 7 years and counting, because living in an RV kind of requires it. Now that the house is becoming a reality, I've allowed myself to acquire new things without getting rid of old things, and I'm afraid to count things because the numbers might horrify me. After 7 years of "one in, one out" and careful consideration of purchases, I'm probably swinging too far in the opposite direction as I shop for my body as it is now.

So storage space has probably been the biggest factor in wardrobe Size for me, with laundry cycles running a close second. During winter, clothes don't line dry very quick (and I line dry all of my clothes), so I need more winter items (because I have a lifestyle that tends to dirty my clothes when it isn't destroying them).

approprio

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My wardrobe is on the large side, at around 200+ items. This suits me, because I like being able to shop my closet. I often think it could be a bit smaller and still meet my requirements, but nature abhors a vacuum so given half a chance I'd probably end up with just as much stuff.

My main objective in building and maintaining this collection is to stay ahead of the game. When styling for a new season, I prefer to work with what I already have rather than race out to buy new stuff. Hence, I rarely buy new at the start of the season, but try to identify wants and needs as I go. I typically edit once or twice a year.

Like Katerina, whose comment I very much identify with, I don't much care for fast fashion and I like to have a variety of quality items to choose from. Around half of it is essential items, what you might call the meat and potatoes - shirts, practical pants, knitwear etc. The other half I think of as the working resource.

I don't want to be beholden to trends, but I can't afford to look like I'm not paying attention. Every decade I've lived through has recycled fashion from previous eras, so I typically have quite a few vintage classics alongside the newer stuff. I tend to hang onto things if they're really good even if I'm not wearing them this year. In the past I've made a lot of things myself but right now I'm into customising and altering existing items.

In the long run, I think the size and composition of my wardrobe is probably dictated by natural attrition vs rate of shopping. Yeah, that's a no-brainer, I know, but I do like to wear things until they fall apart.

Jane

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Fashiontern, good question and very thought provoking.

I bought 60 pink plastic coat hangers after DS was born, and so I tend to limit myself to not more than 60 hanging items, plus 9 skirt hangers (a recent purchase). It doesn't quite work out that way as I keep 3 jackets in the office and 3 coats on the coat pegs in our hall. I have gear in a small draw and discard when I can't get the stuff to fit in. I have 6 or 7 bags and may be 10 pairs of shoes and boots. So, may be 90 or so items with a definite split between work and home.

Suz

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It's really tough to arrive at a "right size" wardrobe in the abstract. The "right size" wardrobe is always right for the life you live now and the place you live now. As others have said, needs depend on the temperature extremes you deal with, your tolerance for weather changes, your lifestyle, the variety of your roles, your comfort with repetition vs. need for variety, your laundry situation, your closet space...and on and on.

I consider myself to have a large wardrobe at the moment -- around 150 items not counting gear, undies, or scarves/ mitts/ hats etc.

I built this over 7.5 years of purchasing and editing -- in 2010 when I landed at YLF, I had, essentially, a pair of yoga pants and nothing else that fit. Needless to say, it has been an expensive (but fun!) process! And it has been organic. I didn't set a number in advance. At one point I think I tried to do so...but it didn't really make sense for me in the end. The better way was, as Caro said, to simply try things out, decide what I loved, get rid of things I didn't love...

Typically for the last few years I was ranging around 125 or so -- numbers are up now partly due to coat and boot additions -- this is a capsule that as long as I live in the north, I have no intention of reducing.

Like Staysfit, I think largely in terms of F/W snd S/S -- although the transitional seasons together amount, in a way, to one season -- the clothes that work in Spring and Fall overlap to a large degree and tend to work much less well in either summer or winter for me -- though of course there is some crossover.

I "switch" my closets out -- storing off season clothing in a different closet. I enjoy the annual switchover; it's an opportunity to evaluate each piece and make decisions about editing.

Meredith

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I think I have one of the smaller wardrobes around here, but I would still consider it medium-sized because I’m not really trying to be a minimalist. I’ve never counted how many things I own. I have a list of around 30 staples per season, but there is a lot of crossover. And then there are plenty of things that are not on the staples list. So maybe around 80 items (including shoes, accessories, outerwear but not gear).

Things that affect size:

-Comfort with repeatIng parts of or entire outfits

-Preference to not have laundry build up (fewer clothes means I have to do it)

-Preference to not be overwhelmed with choices

-Desire for good value out of my purchases. I don’t expect to wear everything with the same frequency, but I want most of my clothes to be workhorses that I wear often

-Desire to try new things. Because I do like playing with trends but don’t want to churn through stuff mindlessly, a small wardrobe ensures things wear out relatively quickly and can be replaced without any guilt

-Lifestyle. I work from home 3 days a week so I don’t need as many work clothes

I have settled into this wardrobe size naturally. It has taken several years of reflection and experimentation to find what works for me

DonnaF

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I used to have a very small wardrobe when I only bought from Lands End catalogs and from bricks'n'mortar stores. Most stores don't have much of a selection if any in Petites which I need 90% of the time. Now that I shop from Nordstrom online and save items on my Wish List until they are marked down (or sold out) my shopping world has expanded exponentially even though I no longer *settle*. Mixed blessing, I suppose.

Jenn

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As SarahD8 astutely pointed out, it depends what you count, doesn't it?

If I count everything in my tracking software (which would be everything I put on my body except pajamas, underwear, socks, and a few jewelry pieces), I have 151 items.

Take out my tracked jewelry (which I usually do), and that brings the number down to 140 items.

Now, remove gear from that, and you come down to 119 items.

Remove bags from that: 112 items.

Remove accessories like scarves, hats, belts, and eyeglasses from that: 90 items.

Remove footwear from that: 78 items.

So you see, I can get my numbers pretty low with some creative math. I usually count footwear, but none of the other things for a total of 90 items, but the very first number is probably the most honest.

I've spent the past year diligently tracking wears, so my ideal wardrobe size is starting to be based, not on the end number, but of the functionality of items within. Here's how I know my wardrobe size is working for me.

I don't struggle to put together outfits for activities or weather conditions in my life.
I'm not bored with my options.
I'm wearing most items ten or more times a year, or 30x over three years. (This is arbitrary, but based on Livia Firth's sustainability campaign.)
My clothing budget doesn't interfere with other priorities.
My clothing fits easily in the storage space I have available, and I don't often run into laundry backups.

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