Okay! I did some TP math. (Skip this post if it is TMI.) I thought we went through a family super pack every 3 months. I was right!

We are 4 adults. We go through 3 ‘super’ rolls of TP per week. A family pack of super rolls is 36 rolls. 36/3 = 12. My current stash (I have an unopened family pack and random rolls in all the bathrooms) should last until June 26th!

Do I need more?

I have been trying to do tp math, but I have no idea. We are three adults, but normally 2/3 are out of the house during the day.

I just started a standing order with Grove for tp and household cleaners earlier this month, so I’m hoping that will both suffice and not be cancelled due to crazy demand.

As for grocery shopping, we tried to do a regular weekly shopping today and it was insane. I think I got about half my list. Empty shelves everywhere. How much cereal do people need?!

Sorry you had to go through that episode and hopefully you’ll get some rest. Not too much trouble here, though the big warehouse stores saw a huge amount of traffic. I routinely keep a stocked pantry with canned goods, flour, frozen veggies, meat and fish. This pantry could last at least 3-4 weeks, but then we’d be pretty close to the bottom. My regular shopping trip kind of alternates between canned and dry (pasta, rice) goods one week, meats, eggs and cheeses the next, with milk and produce each time. The pantry gets regular circulation, but it’s handy to have a variety of ingredients in stock for weekly meal plans.

I had very recently purchased laundry and dishwasher soap, t.p., vitamins and frozen foods, so needed very few items to “top off”. The Friday grocery run consisted of the regular bread, milk, cereal and a few ingredients specifically for the week’s meals. I found just about everything on my list. But I thought if I’d needed (or run out of) toilet paper badly enough, I would not mind cutting up a bunch of flannel remnants or even a few old T-shirts and making washable cloths. I did use cloth diapers for my babies long ago, and cloth wipes would be a good solution if I need it now. Maybe that sounds gross, but it’s creative!

I don’t get the TP thing either. Honestly, since I live alone I run my food and tp pretty tight, cause I go to the store 3 times a week. So when I said I needed tp it’s cause I really needed it.
And what’s up with the bottled water? It’s not like the Coronavirus is in the water, or like the power is going out so the water authority will be going off line. But everyone was buying water.( Ok maybe that’s why they need the tp)

Jenn, I use grove too. They recently sent out an email to everyone talking about how they didn't expect any issues with supply, and that they would keep us updated. Hopefully they will be able to stay up and running

Right. So I did go into the big supermarket today for a looksee... and have to admit I laughed. Cleared out of tp and... saltines!

I noticed tho people bypassed the bulk matzoh on sale for Passover... it just made me think, if you’re really gonna survive the apocalypse, gonna have to be strategic. Lol. Yeah. Ok. I said what the heck and bought a case. Lol

Whelp the governor of the State of Washington just closed all bars and restaurants, except take out.
This should get interesting

Same here in LA county. Also all “non-essential” businesses.

Huge kudos to you Cindy, and anyone else who is working retail or healthcare right now.

My husband saw some guidelines that were posted in China about what to do to prepare:
- get outside every day (w social distance)
- exercise to keep your immunity up
- buy extra. But only about 30% more than you typically would. Anything more is hoarding and counterproductive.

I like this approach that gives guidance vs “BUY EVERYTHING”. As someone else noted, it’s a quarantine not a natural disaster. I’ve been tucking in extras over the last couple weeks when shopping - have needed to as our cupboards were pretty bare! Our grocery store was picked over yesterday, with no shipments planned until Monday. We’ll see how people hold up this week. Hang in there!

annagybe...woke up to the news that the govenor has done the same in my county. looking at the numbers from Italy, i totally get it, but wondering what happend next for these businesses.

Surreal that "what to do if we run out of TP" is a topic of conversation in 2020 Scary times!

Everyone keeps telling me about DIY hand sanitizer, but it uses alcohol, and all the alcohol is sold out too!

Someone, somewhere, has bottles and bottles of the stuff hoarded in their basement, while others can't get a hold of ONE measly bottle. This is the problem with panic hoarding. People, just STOP.

Janet, there is someone with like 17,000 bottles. The NY Times reported on him and he's been shamed into donating them.

I felt the same about sanitizing my iPhone screen. I can't get wipes, lysol, etc. So I use a 1:1 solution of water and rubbing alcohol, prepared in an a jar. I then use a cloth or tissue to wipe the phone down. I can also use that solution to wipe down anything that comes into the house, like groceries. Needless to say I already had the rubbing alcohol on hand, since that can't be gotten either!

Times like these tend to bring out the best in some people, and the worst in others.

Stay safe and healthy, everyone!

I'm with Gretchen, China and HK are recovering well - 2/3 months in - and we can LEARN from them. Good advice!

The state of Tennessee is prosecuting the guy from the New York times article, as they should. He was getting as much as $70 a bottle on Amazon

My sister just had to do a monster shop because she is trying to keep people she loves out of harm's way - her husband who is in the middle of radiation and chemo treatments for a throat tumor and her mother-in-law, who is 82 and a diabetic. Not everyone who is stocking up is an idiot. Lots of people are shopping for other households who should NOT be exposed to this virus, as well as their own family. Don't rush to judge!

Good point Bennett. Let’s not be the snarker in line.

I think disinfecting solutions should have 60 percent alcohol. That’s what hand sanitizer should have, anyway.

I read about the guy in the NYT. I hope they throw the book at him. I can’t find any hand sanitizer, or a thermometer, for that matter. They were probably bought up by a profiteer here. We used to have a thermometer, but can’t find it.

Oh, Bennett, I have been outwardly nice to people in spite of my ranting and venting here. And at my store, the ones who are shopping for others have generally let us know that's what they're doing, and we've been helping them find what they need and suggesting alternative sources for things we are out of. I'm trying to remember that this is stressful for everyone, even if some people are acting like donkeys over it LOL

Bennet -- excellent point. I suspect the intent in all of the "stop stockpiling" talk is aimed at those who make it harder for folks like your sister, and who start to put everyone into a panic by creating a shortage. We're far from out of TP, but because it disappears so fast, i start feeling like now we need to watch for it and snap some up if we see it (and by some I mean a package, not a case!) The hoarding (and profiteering) needs to stop so everyone can get what they need when they need it.

Bennett, I’m not snarking at anyone who is doing legitimate shopping. I am not even witnessing these kinds of overloaded carts in the store when I’m out and about, so I’m not judging anyone I see. I’m talking about whoever is overbuying medical supplies and necessities relative to their own needs. If I saw someone with a cart loaded with lots of stuff, I’d assume they have a large family or something like that. But if someone is buying five bottles of rubbing alcohol, I’d seriously wonder what they’re doing.

I never used the word snarking. I just don't think people like my sister should have to explain themselves or be judged by others, because they don't know the situation she is dealing with. I'll bet plenty of people are shopping for multiple households, so those at the most risk don't need to add to the list of their worries. Just giving a different perspective on this conversation. Yeah, it hurts my heart to think she was probably judged as a grocery hoarder or something.

Well, Bennett, since I'm pretty sure your sister wasn't the witch that snarled at me, it's a pretty safe bet that she wasn't judged as
A) a grocery hoarder
B) a witch
C) or something

And I'm not judging legitimate shoppers. However, when I've had MULTIPLE people tell me crap like "well, I figured I'd just do what everybody else is doing and buy a bunch of stuff"

And yes, a single woman who had just spent $300 on perishable foods actually said that crap to me

Then I'm not being judge-y. I'm stating a fact. There are idiots and jerks out here making this even more difficult for people like me than it needs to be. So maybe don't judge me for being upset at idiots and jerks who are actually OVERBUYING AND HOARDING perishable groceries that they aren't going to cook before they spoil.

Just trying to add another perspective on judgemental ideation to your judgemental perspective about what I'm going through.

I just watched the video of the Nurse from Tennessee recount her witnessing a woman at the checkout verbally beating up , and screaming at a checker for touching his face while ringing her groceries and insist he wash his hands before proceeding. He uses hand sanitizer as she then swipes her debit card and punches in her number touching the FILTHY pad ,

This country can survive this flu virus, but will it survive people like this ?

I’m trying to calm down my 83 yo mother (and provide a lesson on e-mail etiquette) after she sent a stupid e-mail SPAM letter about how to avoid getting Covid-19 to a mass mailing list of 35 people (friends, family, and others she has somehow randomly added to her mailing list). I’m sure most of these folks just delete her e-mails in normal times, but this time a bunch of folks responded quite strongly, and now she is upset. Tempest in a teapot.



Oh dear -- that must be upsetting for her. I hope it is smoothed over soon and that the recipients can be understanding that she meant well.

Aw. Your poor mum. That’s an honest mistake. It’s happened to everybody.

Since everyone is calling me out by name, I'll bite.

Really, cindysmith? I also am not being judgy, just stating a fact, as well. And this IS a forum, so I am not out of place by joining in to add to the discussion. It doesn't take away from the experience you are sharing here, just another layer added for people to consider. Yes, the buffoons are out there. I have a co-worker who seems to think it is MY burden to keep HER work area sanitized???? Thanks for including me in your crazy, dear co-worker, but you look after YOUR space, I'll look after mine.

That's the last I will post on this thread, let the beating begin.......

I'm not beating you up, Bennett, just pointing out some of the facts as they are occurring in my world. Your perspective is valuable to me, because it reminds me that this is difficult for everyone, and it reminds me to watch for those subtle cues that indicate this woman needs help finding the necessities to get her family through this. Your sister is an example of why I am actually leaving my department to wander the aisles of a store that I'm still learning to hunt down cornbread mix or cream of mushroom soup (and yes, I did exactly that for people yesterday). Most of us in retail can recognize that look of desperation in the eyes of that customer who is trying to obtain supplies to weather this disaster. We recognize it because we see it in the eyes of our coworkers and we see it when we look in the mirror. I was calling you out for assuming that we retail workers are judging everyone by the behavior of the single woman buying $300 worth if perishables just because everyone else was.

Now, if I were you, I'd tell your co-worker to stay in HER space and let you stay in yours because that women is part of the problem (and probably has a hoard of bananas and potatoes she ain't gonna eat before they rot). Your coworker is out her rabid mind and should probably just stay home