Kate - I'm looking at the Grand Court and have it in my cart on a Cdn website. Not quite sure yet, but I might order them and see. The one pair that bj1111 linked were EXACTLY what I want, but not available in my size - 8.
Angie - I like the Cole Haan oxfords but don't want a knit for winter. That style is great though. The Campers scare me. lol. I certainly appreciate you linking the others you have found . I'm still looking for just the right degree of something I can't find . Basic court shoes I'm covered for - Stan Smiths, Converse All Stars, etc. I really want something with more sophistication.
You know, between my search for black Chelsea boots and these white sneakers, SO MUCH is sold out in my size right across the board from all retailers . Kind of odd at this time of year. Inventory really must still be an issue.