LISE- Should be fun using some slightly different principles to guide your grown-up tomgirl style going forward. When I determined I was likely a DC, it made so much sense to me. I don't always adhere to everything thats suggested but refinement and sleeker tailoring are core principles that I do follow.
SUZ - From what I understand of dramatic classics the key elements are waist definition, mostly balanced proportions with slight angularity or sharpness in the features. My hunch is that Angie might be a DC as well.

Lise, I did take a test and my result is Theatrical Romantic. I haven’t looked at the styling recommendations. From the types description, I still think that FG is more me. On another hand, Suz and I are very different and can’t be both FG. This is why I find it so confusing!

IRINA So what I can see is Theatrical Romantics are petite, have a double curve (top and bottom), yet a more angular face than a usual Romantic. Sounds like you from the little I have seen but don't know if you have upper curve too. I have never noticed any curves as you wear loose clothes but you do mention having a lower curve sometimes. Remember it is not your actual body but the outline of your body if that makes any sense (! - that is what it said :)). Celebs are Mila Kunis and Selena Gomes. I hope DEE and other experts chime in. This is new to me too. MARY BETH identified as a Theatrical Romantic.

IRINA, LISE- Haha, I'm no expert, and go figure- it is confusing for sure. Theatrical Romantics are apparently hour glass or pear- shape, soft and fleshy, usually large luminous eyes and full lips. Under 5 ft 5 inches. Recommended styles are delicate lacey, ruffles etc.. sweetheart or scoop necklines, should avoid oversized,boxy or structured items. Rather the opposite of flamboyant gamine and what Irina prefers to wear.

Dee & Lise, thanks! I do have an upper curve, I think. I have a big (for my frame) chest 30” or 29” band with DD or DDD cup. I don’t like to display that. The Gamine types have smaller chest. Actually, my chest and hips measurements for most of my life were equal to each other - 35”.

Found a photo of me at the gym! The most fitted outfit I’ve ever posted here!

Thank you Jenni, Suz, Lise and Dee for responding to my questions! I don't need to take the test because I have insightful Fabbers like you to get me up to speed I leave it in your capable hands to type me! 5ft 6 and shrinking. Small frame. Narrow shoulders. Longer neck, face, legs and arms. Same size on the top and bottom. Straighter Hourglass. Big eyes and round cheeks. So FlamGam or DC, apparently! By the sounds of it, people can be on the cusp of a few types.

A few thoughts:

Irina, I agree with Dee! You wear fluid and oversized items beautifully! And the key to that is structure in all the right places. Like keeping your tops shorter, pants shorter, and your sleeves neat and tidy. You don't wear oversized like Gen Z, IYKWIM.

Suz, is definately a Flamboyant Gamine! I see that for Jenni too!

Lise, Dramatic and Edgy are similar, AND very different. Your style can be dramatic and not edgy, for example. That is - if edge means HARD edge. Dramatic TomGirl can work for you! I see Gamine, too.

The word "cute" in the US means many things!!! I had to learn that living here. In British English, a puppy or small child is cute. In the US, cute can mean anything from handsome, beautiful and pretty, to sexy, attractive, and gorgeous. And is used to describe adults.

Angie & Irina as this is all new to me I am going to leave it to Dee, Sus and Jenni and anyone else who can, Ket, Mary Beth? to type you both. (Please excuse my odd spelling sometimes. One key on my keyboard is not working. I cannot even type it to say which one! The last one in the name Sus, hence I have to use an 's' instead - ridiculous!)

Angie thanks for the American-English tips to help make me more smart ;). Sometimes I want to call an outfit cute on the forum and worry that it may be a bit offensive, but obviously it is not to US members. I need to absorb your comments regarding Dramatic and Edgy and see how I can make this work for me in a more pronounced but doable way.

Irina, you look fab at the gym! But not, if I may say, "lush" and "yin" like a Theatrical Romantic. Curves are relative. We're women -- we'll all have some! And -- to be honest -- the extremely skinny photos they show in those tests don't make it super easy to identify with any of them, in my opinion! If it helps at all, my chest measurement is same as you...30 DD (or DDD in some Natori styles) -- but my bust does not feel large at all, possibly because I never have cleavage....and/or my shoulders are wider, and my hips are around 36. My waist used to be 25 as a younger woman but now more like 26 or 27. (Inches, not cm.)

Anyway, I agree with Dee and Angie -- you look fantastic in oversized but with the structure always, something you are exquisitely conscious of -- going for cropped pants (often) and sharp lines. That is something a Flamboyant Gamine can do. Just no sloppy oversized.

I can't really see you dressed as Theatrical Romantic. I guess you could try it for fun at a thrift store. And take a pic! My guess is that you would feel in costume.

Some of the suggestions for Flamboyant Gamine do not appeal to me either, and I just ignore them. But the most general rule -- boyish clothes juxtaposed with more elegant or dramatic items -- that does appeal. I would suggest that while we might interpret this in different ways (and have interpreted in different ways over our personal style journeys) this element is typical for us both -- not with every single outfit, but as an overall vibe. (Yes, we are girls, we like dresses, LOL.)

After reading your post and all of the replies this morning, I researched Kibbe types online and decided that I am a Flamboyant Gamine. I certainly fit all of the body descriptions and now I know why my two newish pair of long baggy jeans don't look right on me. I think knowing the Kibbe guidelines might help me decide what trends to avoid in the future. He certainly go that one right. Fun discussion, everyone.

So....to Bonnie's point about long, baggy....one reason my full length wide legs do work on me (despite my being flamboyant gamine) is they are not overall baggy. They are fitted on the waist/ hip, so structure! I can wear an overall looser pant if it is cropped -- again, structure. And of course slim tapered cropped trousers also work.

BOXY works on flamboyant gamine. Overall baggy and/or too much fabric, does not.

Again, sorry to derail, Lise!

Suz, Angie and Lise, thank you!

BONNIE glad you joined in and got some insight.

SUZ (back on my phone so I have a Z!) you are not derailing anything. I love getting your valuable input and am sure everyone else does too. Are you going to type Angie? I definitely don't have enough knowledge.

IRINA Im sure others will still chime in. Are you still feeling confused? Do you feel aligned with Flamboyant Gamine, or are there any parts of Theatrical Romantic that could work for you? I'm going to try and assess you too.

More insight from my research. I've always loved Angie's style but her refined shoes which work so well for her don't work for me. I discovered that chunky shoes work for Flamboyant Gamines and that's what works for me.
SUZ: Good point, my balloon pants are wide but have structure and work for me but the baggy look doesn't.

ANGIE- I hope you dont mind us trying to "Kibbe Type" you. Its hard to do this strictly from photos and not in person.
However, your additional information about big eyes and cheeks, small frame, narrow shoulders, straighter hourglass figure etc... kind of changes the parameters for me. You seem to lack the angularity that's perhaps needed to be typed as a dramatic classic, so you may actually be leaning more towards a soft classic with your soft features. Anyway, whatever the kibbe type, its all just fun speculation because no matter what you wear Angie, its always with such fabulous style and grace. You obviously have wonderful style instincts without the need for kibbe.

It's been such fun discussion, some may have found clarity for their style moving forward but for others, we might have confused you even more. I'd say that's typical Kibbe though lol.

@Lise, I laughed and laughed at your Z-key not working on your at home computer!!! And using cute for anything in the US is major praise. Rest assured

@Irina, great pic, and echo @Suz all the way!

@Bonnie, you are fab, and yes to being a Flamboyant Gamine! I’ll wear dainty and refined shoes for you. You can wear the chunky ones for me

@Dee, don’t mind at all! I asked ChatGPT AI what my Kibbe type was after uploading several pics for it to see. It maintains I’m a Soft Classic - so good for you!!! Not that I know what that means…..but you are reassured! I’m not that angular. Thanks for the sweet words too. You are so lovely

Well said DEE!

Having met Angie in person I would say she definitely has angles. Lots of yang elements in her makeup. Yin in the big wide eyes, gentle curves, and small frame (despite her height).

Lise, yes, I think that I’m FG. I’m glad the Kibbe system helps many. On my part, it’s more of curiosity. I dress the way I like whether it is aligned with my Kibbe type or not. I’m not too much into figure flattering outfits and styles that might be suggested. And it’s ok.

You All this has been so much fun!

IRINA you are one of the most stylish forum members and really don't need Kibbe but if you are still curious perhaps you should ask ChatGPT like ANGIE did. It seemed to work!

IRINA lots of cross posting. It's all good. I think FG is appropriate too.

I had a bit of a look for Angie and I can’t really answer the quiz well enough on her behalf. I did think perhaps Angie looks taller than she really is, in her photos? We often comment “legs for miles” etc. So Angie I have to leave it with ChatGPT! Because I think I could get really confused with trying to decide on your behalf and you don’t need the Kibbe recommendations anyway because you seem to understand your own body and style so well. That hasn’t been the case with several of us and for us we may gain valuable insights from the Kibbe-verse as the Redditors seem to call it!
I was in my favourite small shopping mall yesterday, and decided to have a rotate around the many clothes shops (at least 11 different stores) to see the new Spring fashion just coming out. I was attracted by a few things and had my soft gamine recommendations in the back of my mind, for things like possibly showing ankle, smaller prints, more cropped cardigans or jackets to define the waist, etc. So I think believing I am that Kibbe type does help me.
I am yet to decide whether to buy anything new for Spring, it’s a few weeks away yet for us but yay, it’s coming soon!

Ok I’m mad at all of you now for getting sucked into a rabbit hole of Kibbe typing . I was supposed to be painting baseboards !!

I took the test on the site Lise linked to , and came up with a soft classic for myself , which seems neither here nor there , but I suppose is relatively easy to dress ?

Suz, HAH! Thanks for making me laugh Appreciate the "angles" comment and "yin and yang" analysis. Generous of you to dig further for me! Enjoying your accuracy, since we've met several times

Jenni, Dee and Lise, thanks for trying! All in good fun. As with any guideline and bit of advice - take from it what is helpful and makes sense, and leave the rest. If Kibbe offers supportive suggestions, confirmations, clarity, and you can hear the pennies drop - please carry on! You have my full support.

Like Irina, I was a little curious at this stage, seeing as this thread exploded, and it's my forum! It's been interesting, although my Kibbe type is not clear cut. Soooooooo, at the end of the day, I wear what I think looks good, feels good, and works with my lifestyle, and my emotions. I have an excellent handle on what my body and heart wants to wear (after a LOT of trial and error and soul searching over the years). When I'm unsure from time to time, I ask hubs Greg what he thinks. Onward I go!

LJP -- I am laughing, because I was supposed to be weeding the garden...

What does a flamboyant gamine wear for that, I wonder.....

I don’t know Suz ! But the pictures in my head are hilarious .

Isn't it interesting how Kibbe always manages to suck us all down the rabbit hole? I am enjoying everyone's astute comments. My first instinct is to place Angie as a dramatic classic, but I can see why flamboyant gamine is tempting - although I think she might be too tall. Irina you definitely present as taller than you are - as Suz says, I don't see theatrical romantic but flamboyant gamine makes sense.

Thanks for your Kibbe expertise, Jaime!

On that note, I asked ChatGPT what a Dramatic Classic Kibbe Type should and should not wear. Lise, Jenni, Dee, Suz, Jaime, and other Kibbe type Fabber experts - does it look accurate?

That sounds rather like what you wear Angie! Only thing I disagree with there is ChatGPT saying that Grace Kelly was a Dramatic Classic, because I read elsewhere (possibly Gabrielle Aruda’s site which I was looking at again last night) that Grace Kelly was reclassified as a Soft Classic. That is because David Kibbe got rid of 3 of the “pure” types over time, there was originally a pure Classic and a pure Gamine and (without checking yet again) a pure Natural. Grace Kelly was originally the main example of a Classic in his first book Metamorphosis. He did use Hollywood stars as his prototypes back in the 80s.

ANGIE yes ChatGPT seems to be accurate (bar Grace Kelly) and JENNI is dead right too! An important aspect, especially to me, not mentioned, is that silhouettes should be column like, narrow. For a dress/skirt even an A-line is too much, pants should be straight and not wide-leg. So I believe this is not you. Soft Classic is more appropriate for you from the little general Kibbe knowledge I now have. Also, that you think Dramatic Tomgirl could be a thing has piqued my interest. Experimentation ahead!

LJP maybe it feels easy to dress because you are dressing as a Soft Classic already? Meaning you know already what flatters you and what doesn't. I don't know much about Soft Classics myself except that it leans slightly Yin which I think you do. I say this because whatever you wear (that I have seen) you always look feminine. Sorry we stole you away for a while :).