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Angie- Yes, your list of recommendations for dramatic classics is exactly what I’ve always heard. That’s why I initially “typed” you as a dramatic classic to begin with, because so much of what you wear is exactly like the DC recommendations IMO. The soft classic recommendations are somewhat similar although just not as sharp and precise, more delicate and soft.

I feel I’m a dramatic classic, because I’m 5ft 7inches, have a defined waist, and balance proportions, plus angularity in some of my features, such as thinner lips, and an angular jawline. Its this angularity that basically separates the two classics from each other, if that makes sense. I have a bit more yang than yin in my bone structure.

4 months ago

DEE I was editing my comment to Angie when you posted.
Do you think Angie's love of wide legs and circular dresses is one of the reasons that explains the difference of her being a Soft vs Dramatic Classic?

4 months ago

LISE- You’re right, they are more delicate, and flowy which tends to be more soft classic but I also find we can wear other styles if they dont stray too far away from our original essence. I love wearing wide legs too, I think they suit me just fine, even as a DC, as long as they aren't too extreme. Our own personalities also matter in all of this too, so, if it feels authentic to your own personal style, enjoy wearing it despite the kibbe stuff.

4 months ago

Thanks for your attentive thoughts, Jenni, Lise and Dee!

As I read through the AI Dramatic Classic descriptions again:

Jenni, I can certainly pick out half of them that are SPOT ON for my style! Good use of adjectives too Agree that the incredible Grace Kelly is more SOFT than Dramatic.

That said, as Lise wisely points out - half of it is not my style. I am not a "narrow -column -dresser" (which Lise is!). Despite tailoring in all the right places I LOVE playful and elegant swoosh and movement in my dresses, skirts and pants. A-lines, and very wide legs all the way! I love wearing boxy short tops, sack dresses, and toppers, sporting asymmetry, and don't wear cool colours (much). I also frequently wear high contrast outfits.

Lise, I also see GAMINE in your look! You are a Tomgirl after all. So Dramatic TomGirl is spot on I also see GAMINE in my look. I love wearing big boyish shirts and blazers. They suit my body type - as Suz pointed out - although my big shirts are tucked for "precision and polish" to use DC terminology.

Dee, you were dead right from the get go! Well done! You are more DC than me it seems. Your facial features as you describe them, most of all. And your palettes, as well as the medium to low contrast and monochromatic vibe of many of your outfits. Very Classic French! You look like you have French heritage too

Soooo, I'm a hybrid Kibbe Type! Like I suspect many others are.

4 months ago

I am far from an expert. But I'll just jump in anyway (!) and say I think Angie is Flamboyant Gamine, the more angular Gamine (as opposed to Soft Gamine), like Audrey Hepburn, despite being taller than the typical Gamine. (While Angie is tall, her height is not the first thing you notice about her.) "Dynamic contrast" seems key to the Flamboyant Gamine look, and I think that describes Angie's feminine, yet angular features, as well as what she likes to wear and looks good in. She wears color blocked looks really well, a signature FG style.

From Google AI:
"Here's a breakdown of what FGs typically look best in
"1. Fitted and tailored silhouettes
  • Tops:
    Opt for tailored blouses, fitted turtlenecks, or narrow tops in crisp
    fabrics. Clean and simple necklines are key. Asymmetrical details,
    geometric trim, or even chunky cropped sweaters work well.
  • Bottoms:
    Straight skirts with shorter hemlines (above the knee or shorter for
    fun styles) are flattering, highlighting the legs. Slim or skin-tight
    pants, including ankle-length or cropped pants in menswear styles with
    deep pleats or cuffed details, also look fantastic.
  • Dresses:
    Tailored and short dresses with asymmetrical details are ideal,
    showcasing the legs and embracing a retro vibe like the flapper styles
    of the 1920s
"2. Fabrics and textures
  • Fabric Weight and Type:
    Choose lightweight to moderate, slightly crisp fabrics that hold their
    shape. Matte finishes are generally best, but a combination with an
    ultra-shiny surface can be striking.
  • Textures:
    Rough surfaces and all textures are excellent choices. Knits and
    stretch fabrics are especially good, particularly when tailored to
    sculpt the body. Chunky knits work well in cropped styles
"3. Color and patterns
  • Colors: Flamboyant Gamines can rock bold, vibrant, and even wild color combinations. Sharp color contrasts are highly recommended.
  • Prints:
    Bold, animated prints with irregular and asymmetric patterns and sharp
    color contrasts are flattering. Think abstract geometrics, animal
    prints, or avant-garde designs. Avoid overly delicate or blended prints
"4. Details and accessories
  • Details:
    Incorporate angular and sculpted details, like sharp lapels, piping,
    contrasting trim, and asymmetrical or irregular elements. Shoulders
    should be defined, with padding being a good option for sharpness.
  • Accessories:
    Opt for angular and irregular-shaped accessories like structured bags
    (triangles, squares, boxes) and chunky, asymmetrical jewelry. Wide,
    stiff belts in bright colors or unique fabrics are also recommended
"In
essence, a Flamboyant Gamine's best look embraces their dynamic
contrasts, combining the sharpness and structure of masculine influences
with the vibrancy and playfulness of youthful elements. The key is a
bold and energetic style that highlights their unique blend of
angularity and youthful appeal."

Angie, I think you're right that you are a blend--and I agree that is probably true for most of us! You choose fabrics that are more in line with the classics than gamines, and you choose longer dresses and skirts than what are presented as typical for FGs. But then, you are a little taller, so that makes sense, to me.

4 months ago

Sharan, thanks for the generous and attentive thoughts! WOW! Especially astute since we meet in person frequently, and have for years

I'm nodding along with a lot of AI's dressing guide for Flam Gams, as they reflect my style. Colours, Patterns, Details and Accessories are sooooo spot on! You're dead right, and are quite the YLF Kibbe expert too. Much appreciate you chiming!! Definitely a hybrid.

4 months ago

Thanks ANGIE, SHARAN and DEE. I would never box myself in. But this discussion has given me a lot to think about in terms of honing my style. So thanks to everyone who participated. It was also a pleasure to get to know a bit more about you :).

3 months ago
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