Thanks , mad women friends. These shorts are simply the best: lots of ease, but still polished and trim looking , especially at the waist . No lumps and bumps from a fly and belt loops. I have a pair of Jag Bermudas but don't love them as much. They are ok, but not go-to's on a hot day.
Fun fact: Jag Jeans is owned by Western Glove Works, a Winnipeg company who is famous for the Silver Jeans line, and also for producing Victoria Beckham's first denim collection . My first job as a new university graduate was with them - which now seems like a million years ago.