I tried your first rec...the first Find below, and it came the closest to working of anything I've tried, but it still isn't the one. This time it is mainly the fabric...now I've learned what Scuba material is. And that a sleeveless Scuba dress is just all wrong for the South! That stuff is so thick and hot it would never work in sleeveless season, and in the winter when it would work, who wants sleeveless?
Have you seen any of these? And would any of them work on my busty, apple, IT self? Not to mention, for unknown reasons, a lot of dresses just turn "little girl" on me. And well, most of them are sleeveless...hoping the material is at least lighter than Scuba. Agh!! Dresses are too hard!