And a huge thank you to those of you who are listening, and pointing out many great brands and bloggers, many of whom are new to me. I’ll have a lot of browsing to do!

The Cat, yes, definitely. Having been around here since 2009, I realize there are a lot of times when brands many of us post are unavailable or super expensive to get outside the US (even the difference in retail in Canada shocked me!)

Well, the owner of this very forum is what you label privileged (a term that, maybe ironically, to me sounds very foreign). If that may be an explanation of why (in your words) the majority on here share common grounds with that segment. This is the only fashion forum I frequent, so I cant testify to what goes on elsewhere on other sites. I may be reading you wrong, but I feel I was in my right to answer on your post, as you posted this directly after I listed some of my own fashion inspirations (that I see now where both white, slender and possibly other factors I really hadnt put much thought into). I was not looking to start any argument, but I will leave your post be, if my thoughts are upsetting to you.

And to have it said, a big kudos to Angie and the YLF team to promote inclusivity in every way in blog posts and finds.

Synne, sorry - my comment
was not responding to your words. My apologies if it sounded like it was. I was responding to someone earlier who indicated that inclusivity didn’t really matter. And yes, big cheers to Angie who has long been leading this example (featuring a variety of sizes and models for quite some time.)

Non-North American: French blogger that’s been around for quite a long time. I had honestly forgotten about her, till Kari brought this topic up

http://www.leblogdebigbeauty.com/

Unfortunately I’ve forgotten 99.5% of my high school French

Err, apparently she’s Swiss, lives in Lyon, France now. Though when I first found her, she was in Paris

Kari, it's brave to put yourself out there with a request like this. I understand both your wish to see yourself (and others like you, or simply different from the industry ideal) represented more broadly. I also understand that it's emotional labour when you're one of the few people posting outfits as a large-sized woman, especially given social attitudes to size and weight.

It's not quite the same burden to post as a petite or for that matter as an older person or a person who shops exclusively at thrift or as the only Israeli or Dane or New Zealander, etc. etc. At the same time, any or all of those qualities set one apart from the mainstream here because it *is* an American blog with a primarily American audience, despite Angie's hailing from Europe and having lived all over the world. Anyway, that's partly why I always get excited to see another Canadian or grey-haired woman or small-but-not-really-petite person with some of my body modifiers join up!

That last point gets at something crucial for me. If we look for intersectionalities here as well as differences, we can find some surprising ones. Size is only one. I respond to different forum members' outfits for different reasons.

You've been on the forum a long time so you know how people come and go. People don't always leave because they feel unwelcome. Sometimes they feel bored (fashion's not their thing any more) or they need time to devote to family or work, or they are ill, or they feel they've got it figured out and just don't want to participate. At the same time, I agree it's important for us as a group to stay alert to what we might be doing unconsciously to make some people feel unwelcome. And then to do what we can to rectify that imbalance.

I really love Inge's choice of bloggers, who have included women of many sizes, ages, and nationalities and a wide variety of style preferences. Bring it on, I say!

I don't follow other fashion blogs and don't do Instagram. I get my inspiration from Angie's ensemble and trend posts, from forum members, from nature and artworks, and from the people I see on the street -- all shapes, ages, sizes, races, gender presentations. So I'm unlikely to post too many large sized inspo. pics. But I can certainly commit to searching out and commenting about whether any purchases I make this coming year are also available in larger or smaller sizes, if that is something that would be helpful.

Apart from that, I recommend our very own Ledonna who makes plus sized thrift shopping seem like the easiest thing in the world (which we all know it is not!!) Or, for a slightly more classic and Canadian take on that, with a sustainability slant to boot, here's this blogger at Green and Gorgeous. http://www.greenandgorgeous.ne.....y/outfits/

Nodding to all that Suz said. And that’s partly why I want to carefully but clearly voice my experience here - and that my comfort with my own body and being a little vulnerable has changed a lot over time.

If folks are looking for a diverse group to get started - and sorry, I’m on Instagram more than other platforms, so that’s my main source at the moment - there’s a really awesome group of models representing many different bodies, here. Not just size and ethnicity, but age, disability, gender. Pretty cool!

https://instagram.com/wespeakm.....zffnk8z7ox

https://www.wespeakmodels.com/

Thank you Kari! I don't follow fashion bloggers or Instagram, but Already Pretty is a good body positive blog. Also want to give props to Athleta. They're going up to size 3x now, and feature women of many bodytypes in their catalog and site.

Suntiger, unfortunately Sal from Already Pretty stopped posting new content long ago. The stuff there now is recycled posts, look at the original date at the bottom

ETA https://alreadypretty.com/the-next-phase/

I like this one (and her statement "Style has no size"): https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabul.....e-stylish/

I hadn't looked at it for a while, but didn't remember seeing the posts that are on now. Maybe people want to revisit the site and see if they missed anything before, or if something speaks to them more now than when it was posted. I like the one about variety https://alreadypretty.com/

I am just on my way home from an afternoon of boutique shopping In Venice (Los Angeles) and I am FEELING this right now, Kari. Lots of beautiful clothes, but not for me. For me, there were mostly scarves and candles. It left me feeling chastised and uncomfortable in my body in a way that I rarely do. This is why my sustainable brand list only contained companies that might actually dress me. I also really appreciate companies that show their clothing in diverse models. Having even a couple of different-sized models wearing the same piece goes a long way towards understanding how it will work on diverse bodies.

Me too, Jenn. Offering gentle hugs. I know that disappointment well.
Your body and you are awesome and beautiful.

Just to take it a step further:

“9 Ways to Show Up for Your Fat Friends;
Concrete steps to being here for it as an ally”

”Where do you buy your clothes? Are you able to walk into whatever store you’d like, knowing they’ll have your size? My shopping options as a size 24/26 are extremely limited, and for someone just a size up in a US 28? The options are dismal. Feeling cute, put together, or professional can be really hard when nowhere has your size, and the places that do are online only and two or three times more expensive.

One way to be an ally is to vote with your wallet. Give your support to stores and brands that are inclusive (see Universal Standard and Modcloth), or at the very least who don’t actively support fatphobia and stigma. When you see a store using a curvy model in their ads, but not carrying any plus sized clothing, let them know that’s not okay. Fat bodies don’t exist to help them make money off things we can’t even buy ourselves. Use your voice to encourage companies that only carry plus sizes online to carry them in their physical stores.”

https://medium.com/rachael-wri.....f55a6dd573

I love that you bring this up. Thank you for not stepping away but instead stepping closer and shining some light, Kari!

Kari I truly appreciate your putting yourself out there to post this. I have lots of thoughts but the most important comes down to exposure. I really do believe that seeing images of the 'other' - whomever she is - is the best way to combat our prejudices.

Yes. Thank you so much for acknowledging that, too. Because we ALL have a bias for what we aren’t used to seeing (or what we are maybe just used to seeing as advertised as “this is bad and unhealthy.”)

Kari I like to read Lili's blog at Frocks and Frou Frou. Lili is a bit sporadic in her posts, but I really enjoy her sense of style and natural beauty. Lili works in publishing, so her posts are well written and she writes about issues that many women face - but especially her frustration in finding fun fashion that caters to plus size women.
https://frocksandfroufrou.com/
I would like to say thank you for raising this issue and congratulate you on your focus on a healthy body and being open and honest on this forum.

Hi Kari, I wanted to say I appreciate you raising the issue knowing it puts you in a vulnerable position.
To be honest, ylf has opened my eyes to the idea that people so different from me could be an inspiration (admittedly, still often white and in a certain weight range, but way more diverse than your typical fashion blog). I'm a naturally skinny, young white woman and aware that that makes me very lucky clothes-wise. I used to look for people like me in fashion blogs thinking their style I could more easily emulate and still follow mainly other skinny white women as they are overrepresented in minimal and sustainable fashion. I can follow your challenge and pay more attention to this and actively seek other images and will check resources others post. Yet 'making a difference with my wallet' I'm afraid, at this point, is not something I can commit too. I've already had to dial back from my sustainability ideals because it has lead me occasionally to less than ideal purchases (Limited choice) and so, faster churn, which I don't want either. I understand that you are up against that nonetheless and hope you will still find inspiration, cameraderie etc in this space even if it seems hard for many of us to immediately provide an answer to the issues you raise.

Thanks for posting this. I'm in the higher end of the "conventional" size range (esp my bottom half) and got tired long ago of all the blogs and Instas because no one looked like me. Also, each person's style never seemed to evolve, and they all seemed to be moms with long shiny hair, etc etc... the lifestyles didn't fit with mine, in short. (In the past at least, I read that a lot of them were Mormon SAHM's. Don't know if that's still true.)

I get most of my "inspo" these days from here and from people I see on the street in NYC, and the latter is as diverse a population as I could wish. Even in my own office, there are very stylish people of different sizes and gender presentations. So I don't seek out or post that kind of style inspo stuff, but I can certainly be aware when I create Finds. Madewell, for instance, has extended sizing and includes pictures of how things look on more than one body. That's been very helpful to me in buying jeans. I've given them more of my money recently, and that is a big reason.

Thanks for the shout out Synne, Kari and Suz. Read today's blog post:

https://youlookfab.com/2019/12.....s-of-2019/

Halfway down:

Best Instagram Hashtag: #makemysize

Kari, I have been participating in your challenge for years and with great pleasure! I am always looking to showcase great outfits on a range of diverse models on YLF. There is room for improvement of course, but diverse visual representation in the fashion world is better than it used to be. It's tricky though, because I can't freely use the best images that I find online. We take privacy and patent policies very seriously, and can't afford to battle in a lawsuit or have YLF taken down. I do what I can to make YLF a diverse and stress-free place. Always open to suggestions.

Thanks for posting visuals, making yourself vulnerable, and making a difference. This is how change happens. I appreciate it.

Thanks for the additional resources too.

Hi Kari,

Thank you for posting this and also the articles you share on Facebook.
I don't consider myself as a particularly judgmental person but I do know that my first mental reaction is the one I was raised to believe it was normal, the one I felt others had about me in some occasions. Sometimes that reaction is not pretty and I have to give myself a mental shake for it. I am learning how to be a better human being, though.
Regarding your challenge, I am pretty diverse in my instagram following although I don't intentionally do it. I follow friends and add suggestions that I like or bloggers featured on YLF. I will be more aware of what I follow in the future.
A big shout out to Christina F. because I always try to see her outfit posts not only because they are fab but also because I feel that we kind of share the same body type and she is a good reference point for how clothes would fit on me . And to Jenn because we like the same color combinations.
I appreciate the diversity that YLF provides and how Angie nurtures this inclusive environment.
I know that your words trough the years on YLF and in person have had an impact on how I see the world, Kari. Hope that you continue to be courageous and speak up.

This is a thought provoking thread, Kari, and those who have responded, have done so with kindness and wisdom. I’m not on Instagram or FB, and not much of an on-line shopper, so I can’t help you there since that is not where I get my fashion inspiration. YLF is where I get the info and inspiration to sharpen my fashion chops - and I’m as likely to get my inspiration from fellow fabbers as I am from Angie, Inge, and the bloggers that might be featured. As such, I would encourage more participation in WIW posts so that there is greater exposure to beauty in all it’s variety.

I will admit to being drawn to folks who have similar characteristics - curly hair, older bodies, specs wearers - but I’m also drawn to folks who have a love of classic tomboy style and a love of colour regardless of their hair, age, or size. Since there is always something to learn from individuals who have very different styles and ideas, I will LOOK at just about anything - but it has to be there to look at!

I will also admit that I’m not drawn to YLF for the shopping as much as I am for the styling. When I see something I like - a silhouette, colour combination, or styling trick - I try to replicate from my closet or keep an eye open for something similar, but not necessarily the same. Styling is not the pervue of the young, slim, and white - or even women!

Kari, I always enjoy your outfits. I look forward to seeing the beautiful colors you wear. I do mostly neutrals and find it fun to see others who dress more brightly. You have great style!

As a smaller-size petite, I know well the frustration of seeing a thread without a single item that is made in my size. But I don't have the extra emotional burden of being made to feel that I need to change my body because of it. That adds so much to the emotional picture.

I don't follow bloggers because of the issues others have pointed out: many are unimaginative and seem to have a cookie-cutter look that is not me. I have only a few style inspirations with which I check in once in a blue moon. I believe they all wear straight sizes.

As you point out, a big reason that there are so many straight-size bloggers is because cool clothes are readily available for them. It is much tougher to have enough content for a good style blog if you are not straight sized. The two main smaller-size petite bloggers I know of, Jean at Extra Petite and Kelly at Alterations Needed, succeed because (1) Jean has a very conservative style that is businesslike, which is readily available at retail, and (2) Kelly has an amazing tailor. (Kelly herself says that her skilled tailor is what enabled her to have the wardrobe of her dreams. Not many have the funds to spend on such extensive alterations.) So I don't turn to them very much for inspo, even though they are my size, because their style isn't mine.

For me, what is key is the person's style rather than her size. On YLF, I have screenshot a few outfits of Jenn's for my personal style inspo album (love your outfits, Jenn!) because she has a style similar to my own. Since I am already used to not being able to find a given item in my size at retail, the exact pieces the poster is wearing are not too important, since I know I'll have to do it my way anyway. I see instead silhouettes, individual items, interesting combinations and colors, etc., all of which can be transferred to my own body.

I will certainly try to remember when I post a find to note whether it comes in plus. If I forget, I'm open to a gentle reminder. I know that I appreciate it when people mention up front that something is found in petite. Although I think at some retailers, the plus size or petite size is set up as a completely separate product page, and it might not be immediately obvious from the straight-size page.

I don't look through much inspiration blogs any longer. I don't have time to keep up with it all....I love Pintrest for convenience, but it's gotten very boring because there just ins't good diversity and representation there. It's like all young skinny white girls OR if you try to get some results that aren't young it's all "over 50" or whatnot, and usually with some sort of "tsk tsk" tone, like "what not to wear over 50". UGH.

And frankly even what the typical fashion ladies are show wearing I think often they wear quite boring clothes when it's broken down. I'm excited to look through some of the things people here have posted because I really feel an inspiration desert. I relate to what Janet said about the age thing, too. i'm probably a bit fatter than she is. I don't love that I'm fatter than I used to be, but I still think I can look good and I want to see ladies who look like me - fattish, middle aged, exhausted - who are rockin it!

I do love Angie's posts on trends. this is one of the few fashion sites I still bother showing up to. Thanks for this thread, Kari.

I'll keep it simple and just sign off on what Echo said. We're all here to find our style, we all have our struggles, and we should feel free to post what inspires us. Period.

Folks - I’m not here to argue the point. This was an invitation to be more inclusive and an honest, vulnerable statement of what has made me feel excluded over the years. If that doesn’t matter to you, move along! I am speaking to those who are interested in making the community welcoming to all, not just those who look like you. If that’s not your jam, please argue the point on YOUR thread, not here.

Thanks to all who have been supportive and chiming in with great suggestions. I deeply appreciate it.

I’m going to take a break for a while because this has left me feeling pretty raw. I do know that the majority of folks are listening in good faith, and thank you if you are.

Can't help you with tips on where to go shopping, as we live in different parts of the world. However, I suppose that plus size bloggers have suggestions on where to shop. And when I google "Plus size bloggers", I get LOTS of inspirational blogs. This list of 9 is just one of many who caught my interest: https://www.whowhatwear.co.uk/plus-size-bloggers

Japanese comedian, have no idea where she gets her clothes because she only posts in Japanese.
She dresses so cute though!
https://instagram.com/watanabe.....t7dfhbg1lb