I had another thread inquiring about these and just had to do a quick follow up to say these are some awesome pants. No wonder Maya, Angie, Tanya and many others were raving about them. The store insisted they really will not stretch but instead will retain their shape. I loved them so much I bought two pairs b/c they were on a ridiculous sale at my local store. I found them to be true to size (bought a 6) and they were slim and modern but not immodest. I will totally be wearing these to work with blazers, cardigans, blouses, boots and more. I really, really like these. And based on everyone saying they don't stretch I think my enjoyment of them will remain consistent. They seem to be on sale in some stores, but not online though.