Other than insanely crowded, disorganized, and hot, just like almost every other department store on that day So...how big is the typical discount? What kinds of items do they typically discount? Are their any extra discounts on sale and clearance items? Do any of the discounts spill over to their site? Are they willing to set things aside for you in advance? Finally, and most importantly, will they be discounting joe's jeans? (My Nordstrom has a huge selection of Joe's honey jeans for some reason) I HATE crowds, but I'm weighing the pros and cons of actually braving black friday this year. Have any tips and suggestions?