As I mentioned in a comment on Angie's post today, I purchased two pairs of the Loft Julies recently. The first to arrive was the Plaid pencil pant and that one fit perfectly. Then today I got the flared trousers and the fit is awful...essentially cut with too much ease in the hips, rear and thighs resulting in a very saggy look. They are both the same size...what gives? The only thing I can think of is that the pencil pants are meant to be more narrow and hence don't have the sagginess issue (even though they are plenty roomy).