I love turtlenecks, but this year I’m having trouble finding what I want

is anyone aware of a non-sweater turtleneck that has a nice tall, snug and fitted neck that doesn’t slouch or fall down? If it comes in a tall, that would be a bonus, but not necessarily a deal-breaker. The J. Crew Perfect Fit is very close, but the fabric is stiff and a bit too heavy for my climate. I love the fabric of the LL Bean, but the neck is too loose. I have seen a couple of options with nicely fitted necks, but they are super tight and clingy through the body. As you can see, I’m very picky about my turtles. Thanks for any help in finding my holy grail item.