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Update: they’re getting cut off. If this is pastrami, where is the rye bread?

Stagiaire Fash

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Pastrami on rye, as Staysfit mentioned recently, is a classic sandwich. Even a vegetarian like me knows it’s’ delicious reputation. The bread really makes the sandwich. I’m looking for the bottom bun to go with these pants. I’ve posted several times about what to do with them. The forum has always said to wear them, and not cut them off to be shorts. I still haven’t figured out how to do that. Recent conversation on the forum about Amy’s skin sandwiches has made a light go on in my head—that’s the problem!

I finally resolved to make myself wear them. Got up today and tried them with several pairs of shoes: navy oxfords with heels, navy loafers, and red suede ankle boots. What do you think? Do any of these looks have potential? The red boots come closest, but there is still that sliver. I’m also not sure I’m into the red with the pants; it is such a predictable pop of color that it doesn’t feel very fun. I didn’t try my white boots, because they are very white & have black details; the pants are yellowish cream with navy.

I gave up & pulled on a skirt, think I’m going to get the pants chopped today, unless someone stages an emergency intervention here.

This guy gets the roles that the bread & filling play in making a sandwich. It made me laugh.
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Zaeobi

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I can see how cropping them will add a 'predictable quirk' element to the proportions but I'm not sure whether that will make them more wearable for you.

Do you like pedal pushers/ wear them often?

Stagiaire Fash

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Zaeobi, so funny how things strike different people so differently! This near-pedal-pusher length could maybe be called quirky, but not in a way that works for me, whereas I think of the shorts + tights look as a classic. I’ve only recently discovered it & only have one pair of shorts I wear that way, but I really like it.

Star

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I think they need light shoes. Did they not look good with the white boots? I get that the pants are cream...

Stagiaire Fash

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Star, does this look intentional to you?

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Star

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Also, making denim jeans into shorts works a lot of the time, trousers can be tricky. They might not be that good. Are you prepared to give them up completely if they don't work out well?

Star

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I would like to see them on with the pants before I answer.

Star

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From a distance sometimes creams/whites and navy/black can inter-mingle cohesively. They don't look like a clash on my screen.

Stagiaire Fash

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That gave me pause! But honestly, I don’t think I’ve ever worn these one single time. I bet someone here who knows the Theory line can give us a date for them. My guess is that they are at least a decade old. They have been with me all that time, but never in my active wardrobe. In that way I’ve never really had them to begin with.

The other option (discussed previously) would be to take out the hem and see how I feel about them an inch longer.

Star

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If you have never worn them in a decade, and not because of fit issues, I don't think you will miss them if they don't work out as shorts. I don't think longer will really make a difference for you.

Stagiaire Fash

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Here they are with the white boots. Even if the colors work, the proportions are still an issue.

There was a while when fit was a problem, but that was a couple years ago. I’ve had times before & after that when I could’ve worn them, physically.

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Star

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I really think light shoes or a metallic silver or lighter blue shoe will work better. The black just drags down the whole vibe of these pants. Red does not look intentional to me, even as the Pop of Colour sometimes used.

Star

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Ok, saw the white boot pics now. I agree, not right either. What colour sneakers do you have?

Stagiaire Fash

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Fashion sneaks? None. Not my vibe. A couple people on here have commented that my summer look is dressy; that’s the direction I think I’m headed with winter looks too

Star

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Sheesh, these pants are Bossy!! (As Angie likes to call it :))

Stagiaire Fash

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Yes, they are!! They seem so easy—classic wool windows pane pants. But noooooo. And thanks for all the back-&-forth working through different issues.

Star

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You have flat oxfords/lace-ups, Yes - cognac I think? They might work, teamed with a matching bag - a lighter neutral that will not match the pants, but will look intentional IFYWIM.

Stagiaire Fash

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You mean these? They’re what I picture wearing with these pants as shorts.

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Star

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Yes! Is a pic possible with on?

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I think the black shoes look intentional cause the top is black. The red are ok too. The white boots are an odd height with the length of the pants.
Yes to trying the cognac.

Dee

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I actually don’t mind the black laced up shoes with the heel, and I think the red boots looks quite good too, but yes It seems that these are bossy pants so they will be a bit of a challenge. Let’s see if you like your tan shoes better with them or not.

Janet

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I struggle with this length of pants too — the crop seems just a bit short on you, frankly, and that’s a common problem for me as well (long legged girl problems). I think this length works best with one of two extreme options: a low-vamp loafer that opens up even more skin, or a high-shaft bootie to completely close the gap. To my eye, your red boots here create a nice proportion but I get that the color isn’t what you’re after.

They are bossy pants, indeed! I find if I have to work that hard to make something work, it just goes unworn, as these have for you. Even though they do really look like nice pants, I wonder whether any tweaks are really going to make you reach for them more. I’m not sure whether trousers like this make for a good conversion to shorts, it might be throwing good money after bad. There is a taper in that leg shape that makes me think shorts are not the solution.

RobinF

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I quite like them as is, although I agree they could be a smidge longer. Is there any hem you could let down?

I like them with the red boots and also think the cognac oxfords would look great with them.

I have made pants into shorts and sometimes it works but often the width doesn't work as shorts, either too wide or too narrow at the thigh if that makes sense. And it is hard to tell until they are cut off.

Stagiaire Fash

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Welp, they are at the alterations shop now. Because of the taper that Janet observed, a cuff isn’t possible. She is rushing them so I can get them tomorrow.

Dee, I like your new avatar. No more pix until tomorrow, and I will definitely play with both those pairs of shoes.

Suntiger, I could’ve tried a black top with the pants, could still try one with the shorts, but both the sleeves top I’m wearing and the LS one hanging on the door are navy. It is a better color for me than black, but if the hive mind could find a way to make the b/w boots with the “new” shorts and a black top (or anything other than the boringly predictable navy), awesome!

RobinF, what you say about the hem being too narrow or too wide makes a lot of sense to me. The one pair of pants I wear with tights made my legs seem skinny, because they are so wide at the hem. With tights they feel much better to me.

Now seeking inspo pix for just-above-the-knee tapered F/W shorts, with or without tights.

CarolS

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I'd say no to both the red and white boots. They both look too winters for the pants. You could Wes r either pair of black shoes in the first set of photos but I think I prefer the brown ones. I haven read every comment yet but I think I saw you say you were planning to wear them with these pants as shorts. They would look equally good with them as pants and be more interesting than black.

Stagiaire Fash

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Carol, I’m updating the title now to reflect that they are in the chop shop.

rachylou

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All the shoe options in the original post look ‘fine’ to me, but I suspect the pants are just too graphic to be ‘you.’ I think they need some organic pattern to go with to be ‘happy.’

LaPed

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Ooh, tricky! The red boots look *okay*, as do the black oxfords. A pair of sheer socks in a dark neutral could close up the gap, if that's really the issue. I guess slim pants with short inseams is why everyone was crazy for "sock booties" for a while... But like Rachlyou, I'm wondering if there's a bigger issue that makes these pants tricky to incorporate--the colours, the scale of the plaid? A summery vibe that doesn't quite cooperate with the wool fabric? I'm just taking guesses here. I do think it might just come down to navy/cream not being a go-to colour combo for you, maybe because you do a lot of black/white prints and patterns...

If you've really never worn them as pants, I don't see any problem with experimenting with them as shorts. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and all that. If they have enough volume to work as shorts (they do seem pretty slim?), then I can picture them with navy tights and your cognac oxfords. That could be fun! Do show the results. Fingers crossed!

Stagiaire Fash

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LaPed and Rachylou, interesting observations about my style and the pattern. I do prefer to wear my pattern on my bottom half, now am thinking about the strong lines. Guess we’ll see soon!

I hope I like them, because I’m already regretting not tsking out the hems first. I wonder if the taper will look about like these
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Ps, I also note that neither of you have tons of personal experience with the floodwater blues.

Runcarla

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Could they be the Treeca 2 Windowpane Crop Pants from Theory? (See photo #1)You’ve never worn them? Do you remember why you bought them and what it is that you liked about them? I like how they are styled below in the product photo, and would wear them with an oversized slouchy sweater and sneakers, loafers, oxfords. (Like photo #2)

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