I love the idea of aubergine, Krishnidoux! And I am obsessed with detail-free pockets, so that is a winner!

I think you will like them. Them don't get the black jeans as they have sequin on the back pocket; however I have to say the placement is wise and flattering (on me). That's why I got them myself despite this detail. I don't like sequins on back pockets usually. The aubergine ones have no details but the hanging silver belt loop shown.

Aziraphale's comment is hilarious.

Fruitful, I'm new to ylf so not sure exactly where in Australia you are based. If you're in Melbourne I know that David Jones offers a free consult with a personal shopper. You can email your specific requests ahead of time and they will have a selection of items ready for you to try when you arrive. Saves time and you can always order off Shopbop later....cheeky but the mark up over here is ridiculous!
Jean shopping is daunting but definitely worth it once you find a brand that works. I have had luck with Nobody jeans (designed and made in Melb) and currently live in a black pair. I have dark hair and mainly team them with blues, white, blush and stripes. Goodluck with your search!

Hi Fruitful! just chiming in to congratulate you on your new purchases - they sound fab - and to second all those who say go to the shops.
2 months I bought my first pair of jeans in over 12 years! I had practically stopped wearing jeans, and been putting off buying new ones on account of the depressing feelings that come with unsuccessful jeans shopping. I have a long list of special fit requirements that sometimes seem nearly impossible to fill - and like you, I thought that for me only a bootcut style would look any good.
What I really longed for was a pair of skinnies. But any skinnies I had tried on from time to time looked awful. However, from YLF I had gleaned that straightleg jeans might be a good skinny substitute, so in August I marched into my local JeansWest in Sydney, ready to try on straightlegs.
Enter The Jeans Dude.
You know the type, every specialty jeans shop seems to have one. He introduced himself as the manager, though he couldn't have been a day over 22, i.e. young enough to be my grandson. He was slim, taut and confident, very tanned with a bleached faux hawk, wearing an overly tight check shirt, and skinnies so tight they looked glued on. He cast a practised glance at the jeans I had on (my best and only pair, bootcuts of course) and guided me as requested towards the straightleg section. And then he suggested I try skinnies. I told him my skinnies woes, how I couldn't even get my feet into them in "my size", how I couldn't bend my knees, how my calves felt like they were in a tourniquet, how I couldn't find any long enough, etc.
And off I went to the changeroom with the straightlegs. But the fit looked wrong, whatever the size and style. He suggested skinnies again.
What the heck, I thought, I suppose I should. I did insist on a relaxed fit (I was thinking slouchy/boyfriend skinny) but when I looked in the mirror, my heart sank. The fabric was wrinkling in a way that I had seen often enough when my knock knees meet skinnies (any knock-kneed gals out there? you know the double diagonal knee wrinkle thing?) I felt suddenly at a dead end. It seemed to me that trying different sizes would just bring a host of other, even worse fit problems. I realised that I did not have the slightest idea what my next step should be. So I did something out of character, that I cannot remember ever doing in a clothing shop.
I asked The jeans Dude for his opinion.
Now I'm normally very clear in my own mind about why something does or doesn't work on me, so I never feel the need to seek a fit critique from shop assistants . But this time, I walked out of the changeroom wearing the "bad" jeans, found The Dude and said the words I had only ever uttered to members of my family: "What do you think?"
I swear he straightened up. He took one look at the jeans and said emphatically," You need to size down", and then vanished to get the smaller sizes.
I could not bring myself to reply that, with the jeans I had on, I had just spent 2 minutes struggling to get the sides of the zipper to meet. How could i possibly get into a smaller size? Never mind, what did I know about jeans...I was now in the hands of the expert. I meekly wrangled my flesh into every pair he brought me without a word of dissent; and walked out of the fitting room every time to show him and ask him what he thought. I even submitted to a jeans jegging which look surprisingly good, if a little nightclubby for my taste... anyway, he found me a pair of darkwash skinnies so nice that I bought them in the black as well. (Bonus - they are a standard Jeanswest line, so only $75 a pair :).To most skinny wearers out there they would not look like anything special - just 2 standard pair of skinnies -- but for me they are a complete marvel. I have worn each pair many times since.
Fruitful, I've mentioned my experience not because I think you should forget bootcuts and go for skinnies, but just to suggest that input from someone who knows their merchandise CAN reduce jean shopping stress. Hope you will find your very own Jeans Dude (or Jeans Mistress)! NB: go when the shop will be fairly empty and the staff have time on their hands - just after opening is a really good time, as is after 4pm on a weekend. And ask if the shop has 2 angled mirrors in the changeroom, for a proper rear view. Good luck!

Lyrebird, that is such a well written, thoughtful and inspiring post it deserves reposting for everyone to see (I mean, you should give it its own separate conversation0. I love it. What an amazing experience and how great that you were inspired to trust TheJeansDude! Admittedly, the only jeans I've ever truly loved were from a JeansMistress, a couple of years before I had children, when I could flit in and out of shops. She told me to size down too Thankyou for the sound advice as well, I need it!

Loz, welcome to the forum, I'm in Northcote. I did not know about the personal shopper! I'm a little scared because I tend to feel inwardly obliged to buy something if an SA goes out of their way for me but I am going to try to work up the courage to try this! Also, I saw Nobody in Google and wondered if they were good or not. So glad to hear your experience! And I love that you take your hair colour into account with your outfit. Blues, white, blush and stripes sound like delectable complements to black jeans; great inspiration for me.

Fruitful, I'm in Fairfield!! When you've got a moment check out Ili on Wingrove St, just opposite Fairfield Station. The owner and operator Jackie is lovely and very helpful. She's a stylist and stocks a great mix of Australian and other labels (Nobody jeans included).
I understand feeling obliged to buy when an SA goes to a lot of effort, it almost feels like bad manners not to.... Be strong and don't settle

Goodness me Loz, how funny! (anyone reading this, we are possibly a 10 minute walk apart). If you read my whole post, you'll know the shops I went to. First the new one in Station St that stocks Mavi and Metalicus, then Lupa in Westgarth shops where I had more success (admittedly expensive, but I have not bought basics in a looong while!)

Is Ili a new place? I may have driven past but I've never been in.

Ooh! This is so fun! I love when we discover YLF neighbours! And Fruitful, it sounds like you got some great items!


Lyrebirdgully, I'm in full agreement with Fruitful -- your comment deserves its own thread and I hope you will begin one -- call it The Jeans Dude.

Because this is a common issue, I believe. We (in our insecurity and fear) judge the sales staff before they've even had a chance. Sometimes they are worse than we fear just from looking at them, but sometimes they really do know their stuff. And in the case of newer fabrics and styles that we may have steered clear of for years (out of bad past experience, perhaps) this is especially true. I had a similar experience to yours with the Jeans Dude when I bought my first jeans in about 8 years following weight loss. And others should know this can happen! So...start a thread. Please? If you don't, I might....:-)

Suz, please do start a thread if Lyrebird doesn't! You have some great insights on this too.

A few thoughts to add to such an informative thread:

I think I know what you mean about cheap color/black combos. The example you gave (shiny pink shirt and cheap black skirt) was what came to mind for me too. But, I'm definitely seeing lots of good colorblocked brights with black bottoms, these days, and like any clothing, good materials make a huge difference.

And, if you're still interested in black jeans, denim-ish black jeans can be more versatile than solid black. What I mean is, traditional denim fabric is thin white threads in one direction and heavier indigo in the other. So, as it fades, the white is slightly visible. Black jeans can be just like that but with black and white, or they can be solid black, either because they're made from all black threads or overdyed black after weaving. Does that make sense? Is there a better name for what I'm calling denim black?

Anyway, some years you'll see more of the solid black, and some years more denim black. But the denim black is (in my mind) totally interchangeable with any outfits that work with dark wash blue jeans. It's more casual, for better or for worse.

Ili opened this year. What lovelies did you get from Lupa? I haven't been in there for ages. I haven't even made it into that new shop on Station St, the steps are just not pram friendly!

Gee whiz Fruitful, it's very sweet of you to say my comment deserves a thread; and now that Suz has seconded the suggestion, I guess I'll go along with that suggestion, as you are both contributors whose opinions I respect.
BTW, Fruitful, I smiled when I read your term "kidlets"- it's a word my long-gone uncle used to use, which I haven't heard in years, and had forgotten. It's a fun word I really like; I must start using it again!

take a deep breath!
Everything goes with dark denin jeans.
I attach some inspirations!
Love black jeans!!

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