I am hoping to make a new pair of culottes my "wild card" item for the fall. I have tried on a couple pairs and have some issues. First:the fabric. The ones I have tried on so far the fabric is rather flimsy. This won't work for fall/winter since I will freeze. So then I tried a couple in a more "pants" fabric and it was missing the drape I was hoping for. Another issue is fit. I am finding that most of the culottes are elastic waist or drawstring meaning the rear view is awful. I'm OK with JFE but these are horrifying. So...has anyone found a pair of culottes that are substantial, yet drapey fabric yet have a somewhat flattering fit.