Do they run small or large?

I'm an 8.5W. I wear an 8.5 in sandals/shoes that are stretchy. I typically size up to a 9 for boots. My Frye Phillip Harness boots are a 9.

I see anecdotes online that people size down in the Melissa's. Should I go for an 8.5 or a 9?

Thanks!

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