Just a quick post to say the AT "relaxed ankle pants" shown in the first find were an unexpectedly good fit and shape, very comfortable but also streamlined, so there is something about the fit that is both relaxed and not bulky, which is unusual and might work for someone else on the hunt for pants. Poly fabric is not ideal, but works for me in AC and it contributes to the drape.

They do have back elastic waist, but I plan these for untucked tops , though may experiment with a wide soft belt that would cover.

However, I have ordered the 2 next finds in a hunt for more tucking options because I just need the higher waist PLUS some kind of pleats or ease--can't tuck with most high-waisted, flat-fit types even "curvy" (or won't, is not even JFE, so is no bueno).

2 concerns regarding styling
(1) --the AT pants aren't currently "ankle length" according to Angie's PPL's but I like them this way with loafers and don't have my target HEWI ankle-strap comfortable shoes to give the look shown or some similar less stumpifying footwear. So, options are, wear as-is (and hide head sheepishly from the fashion police) and either just continue, or can always hem later if ankle craze continues and I find footwear that does what I want.
(2) Don't yet know if either of the Topshop items will work, but if they did, I am assuming that if these are on the market now, they are "updated" but, am I at risk of being too nostalgic? I truly think it's not that I am "stuck", but that the high-waist and pleat (or some similar drapey construction) is my best tucking look that feels right, and so I want to see how to keep incorporating some of it but with whatever kinds of updates that help keep it modern (such as the culottes, but pants are more mainstream and wearable for a wardrobe stable).

Thoughts and comments welcome, or anyone who's tried these items please chime in.