rachy - the fabric is pretty comfortable, even in the #1 out of the box. Lie is too short to be squeezed!
La Ped, Sal and Ryce -thank you so much for pointing out the stretch issue!! They went up almost a full size!
Sal - Thanks for the ideas - I will try them with some low boots and some high tops. As a short person, where the hem hits on straight legs does not help with lengthening, but I do like the style. Do you have any suggestions on brands that work for you?
Aurore - I see the same thing - I actually measured the calf on both 1 and 2 and it is the same, so I'm struggling with this. It may be the looser thigh balances the calf better. Grrrr. Honestly, if I could a good bootcut , I'd think about slimming the low leg (I sew a bit), but the bootcut versions of this was far worse. Or just go to wider legs, but I can't find cords that way.
Christina - I have tried both Marisa fit and Julie Fit trouser styles, and each seems to work in different fabrications. I found this discussion super helpful ttps://hertrustedstylist.wordpress.com/2016/05/12/marisa-or-julie-find-your-fit/ I liked the Marisa/modern fit in trouser styles (maybe because no calf issues?) and the Julie/curvy fit in the cords/jeans.
Thank you all! #2 is the fit I would typically go for, so it helps to have confirmation. But you all have uncovered the reason I am often finding things too big! STRETCH!
Based on the comments, I wore #2 for an hour and suddenly there was extra fabric everywhere. Is it camel toe when there is too much fabric pooching, as opposed to being too tight?
After an hour in #1, it looks a lot like the fit pictured on #2. If I keep them, I will size down to account for the stretch. Still on the fence.