Thanks Inge! It fills a big hole for me. Yes, Deb, thanks for providing the link... they have a fairly high midrise....form- fitting but not 'tight' on me, anyway. I have a 'substantial' shall we say, tummy, and heavy set legs. Wasn't looking for skinnys, really, but am so tired of 'diaper butt' and saggy legs which is how most pants fit me, if they fit the waist. I have short legs, and these give a nice amount of scrunch, yet can still tuck nicely into boots. Laura, I'm surprised to see a 30 inch inseam listed... they seemed longer to me. Not much more, but I thought maybe 31? Sorry they wouldn't work for you