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I also love those Frame and the Wit but I am of no help as I have not tried them on yet. I hope you will get a more practical response, I would also like to know.
I also think they may be too long for me, Suz. They say they are 28" inseam.
We shall see, worse comes to worse it is a return. I ordered some *very* early this AM, crazy but the order was easy to place, not like now.
Suz, I think we were looking at the same things last year.
The length concerns me too but I love them and I'm trying them. Hopefully the website gets fixed soon so I can get my order place. I have no time to get to the store this week and for sure they will sell out.
First pair with front vent runs big. I usually wear a size 25 and these fit me in a 24 - and still not tight. Fit a curvy and straighter figure. Might run TTS for Curvy figures.
CoH Emerson is my go to jean and I have in a few different washes. I carry my weight in my legs with a narrow waist and high hip. I'm usually a 4-6, 27-28 in most other brands but for these I have consistently taken a 25. They don't fit me boyfriend slouchy but more as a straight jean due to my shape. The pocket placement is perfect for me. Hope this helps!
I haven't ordered a thing yet...still deliberating. If it sells out, it sells out. In my experience I'll be able to get it on the first day of the sale proper if I am up early enough!
I bought the COH Emerson - LOVE them. I wear them as relaxed as the model and the 24 fits perfectly. I wear them looser them Muffin. I usually wear a size 0 or 00 at J.Crew, or 25 in most pairs of jeans - for comparison.
I bought the olive Rag & Bone Dre's in a size 25 and they are relaxed - loser than on the model.
I will live vicariously through you, Colette, as I love all these jeans, especially the first pair, but don't need them at all as I cant wear jeans to work anymore. Enjoy your jean shopping!
Angie, thank you for popping back in. Your guidance is tremendously helpful. I ordered my true size in the COH so I may need to size down. I would love the dark Olive Dre but the calves on the previous Dre's I have tried are always tight so I stayed away this time.