Okay, I promised pictures and I realize that isn't going to work. My picture taking set up doesn't work very well for details on solid dark pants...they just look like a column of dark. So, reviews without pictures.

Well, the first order was a fail. The Joie are a beautiful color and very soft fabric...ideal...but they are just too low cut for me. For that price they have to be perfect, no settling, so they have been returned.

The Caslons are nice soft fabric, but the cut is wrong for me. I want loose, but these are loose in a weird way. The butt balloons out, but I couldn't go smaller or they would be too tight in the waist. I guess I'm too apple these days for this pair.

A side annoyance, the Nordstrom order came, was tested and mailed back and the Anthropologie order made the same day was just shipped today. Anthro is not looking so good in this contest!