Thanks Joy - excellent point about looking dated, and I haven't even though about toppers yet. I had decided to be practical and get #6 (same shape as #3 but black with sleeves) went to buy it when I found a few more - I just started a new post with some new contenders. Since I need to buy 2, the black F&F is still in the running, but I'd love your thoughts.
https://youlookfab.com/welookf.....ewel-tones

I like 7&8 the most-if you want sleeves especially. I don't think they will date, as sleeves for a dressy will always have to look somehow(RATHER THAN STRAIGHT), isn't it? or you can cut them elbow length without any flare, later...