So I've been on a lookout for straight or skinny black dress pants for about a year. Last year I tried BR Martins but did not like the fit. Ended up buying straight leg pants from ATLoft and wore them for a few months. Lately, looking at the pictures, I discovered that Loft pants tend to look pretty baggy, at least with flats. So I decided to give Martins another try and size up.

Here are photos. I added ATLoft pants for comparison because I don't want to keep Martins if they are not any better than what I already have. Thanks for looking!

1,2,3 - Loft, Martins 6short, Martins 8short with oxford booties. 4,5 - Loft, Martins 8s with flats. 6 - Loft pants side view to see if they are too short (Martin pants have more scrunch with the oxfords).

My impression is that all of these look shlubby with flats but pretty good with booties. I cannot see any differences betwen size 6 and 8 in photos but in real life there is some bagginess with the larger size. On the other hand, the smaller size is pretty tight and may be uncomfortable after a day at work (or, reversely, the larger size might stretch too much). Those of you who have Martins - do they stretch a lot? Also, do you always dry-clean them? Thanks!

I have to say that the idea of wearing skinny pants with heeled oxfords to work scares me a bit. For some reason this feels quite daring, even though I wear bootcuts with heels all the time.

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