I'm on a quest for black slim (possibly crop) pants this fall, and I ordered a bunch of NAS options to try. I also saw some Eileen Fisher pants that were marked down not part of NAS, and those came today. They are a slim ponte pant, and I like them quite a bit. A pretty thick fabric that seems like it is of good quality. I won't make any final decisions until I compare it to the other contenders, but this is the nicest (or at least the most expensive) pair I ordered. I think it looks good for travel, can dress up or down, and I've been enjoying working non jeans into my daily wardrobe. Right now it's not too loose and not too tight.

Do any of you have EF Ponte pants? Do they stretch out much? These have an elastic waist, so some relaxing would be ok, but hopefully they wouldn't get too sloppy. Do you dry clean, or is wash and hang ok?

In general, just looking for opinions for pants from this brand.