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Angie's skincare posts & no poo...what are you doing ?

Isabel

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Angie's series from a couple of months ago made me start thinking about my skincare routine a bit more. Since then, I have been using 20% vitamin C underneath my facial sunblock. Though I put the combo on the back of my hands, neck and chest. When I start wearing shorter sleeves, I will do my forearms too.

I also started using the Clarisonic with my Neutrogena facial cleaner and sometimes with Dove ( when my skin is really dry ). Though I have not been 100% consistent, I have been 80% consistent. My goal is to be at least 95% consistent with my skincare routine.

I definitely feel that my skin is doing better, though I think it was pretty good before, it definitely feels so much softer.

I have also started using a little make-up and I am avoiding chemicals and heavy metals in colors ( particularly red ). So I am going to order and try some Coastal Creations Cosmetics. They are the only company to get a 0 in harmful ingredients from Skinn Deep. So I am going to get a lip and cheek tint. I have become more concerned about this because I don't want my daughter using such harsh stuff. The bioaccumulation over her lifetime, scares me a bit. So I want to role model for her. ( I won't lie, I also worry about the environment. )

Finally, I am taking the no poo challenge, a la ( where's the accent on my computer ) Queen Mum. I really liked reading the post on this. So today, I washed my hair with a little conditioner. It looks amazing AND clean. I might actually try a little Castile soap mixed with an essential oil. I might clean my hardwood floors that way too, and my dog, and the tub...........LOL

"Wassup" with you ...have any of you changed or adapted you routines as a result of Angie's skincare series or the thread on no poo ? How is it going ?

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Meredith1953

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I do wash my hair every day. and then put a leave in conditioner on. With short hair it only takes seconds LOL! I don't need to blow dry and I use organic shampoo so I'm pretty careful with my hair. I also blot it rather than vigorously towel drying it.

For skin care. I use Paula's Choice skin balancing cleanser and follow up with her 2% beta hydroxy gel for exfoliation purposes. I do this at night only and then just splash cool water on my face in the am. My skin looks good (according to my derm so I think I'm doing right by it!).
edited...I forgot to mention that I FAITHFULLY wear a 60 sunscreen (colorscience fair 60 spf powder sunscreen. I love it)!

Angie

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I am going to blog about this so I'll wait to comment.

Isabel

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Meredith, I have heard of women who say the just use warm water or cool water in the morning with no cleanser. In fact, Salma Hayek swears by this and has done it her whole adult life. That is interesting. Where do you get organic shampoo ?

I forgot to say that I do the Roc retinol at night. I have tried so much stuff. I settled on Roc and the Neutrogena a couple of years ago. And now I just want to commit to my routine. Well, the best person to analyze your skin is your derm. So you must be doing great. Do you do sunscreen. You skin looks like it has little to no damage in the pics.

cinnamon fern

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I've cut down on hairwashing a lot - from every day to every three days. This has got to help the color survive. But I haven't quite figured out how to style it without blowdrying.

Isabel

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Oh I can't wait Angie !!! Thank you.

Cinnamon, I blew dried mine today. I am not sure how to take that step either.

Claudia

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I haven't used any shampoo in a year and a half. I wash my hair only with conditioner. My hair has never looked or felt better.

I was given a bottle of Wen (non-shampoo cleansing conditioner) to try in October, and have been a fan since.

Isabel

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Claudia, do you use any conditioner ? Organic conditioner ? I have tried Wen too and liked it....but my kids ( 8 and 10 ) were misusing it and it got really expensive. My I will put it under lock and key !

Claudia

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For the previous year before using Wen, I used Herbal Essences Hello Hydration Moisturizing Conditioner with really great results.

Meredith1953

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Hi Isabel,
I edited my post because I totally forgot to mention sunscreen which I started using at age 25. I use the colorscience 60 spf powder sunscreen on top of a laura mercier tinted 20spf mosturizer.

The organic shampoo I use are made by Aubrey Organics and I get them at my local health co-op. This is their website. There are other great ones there but these are the ones that I use.

http://www.aubrey-organics.com/default.aspx

CocoLion

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My new routine is to use shampoo (Aveda or Phyto) once a week and the other days I use a little Dove soap and Nexuus or Aveda conditioner. My hair is a lot less fly away, so I am sticking with this routine. I do use the Dove to cleanse because I work in a restaurant with very active char-broilers and deep fryers and my hair and clothing smell after a 7 hour shift.

BTW Dove soap is not really a "soap" as in cocoa-tallow formulation. I learned this when I worked at Colgate-Palmolive on the Irish Spring brand. Dove soap is a very mild detergent formulation. The image of detergent as being harsh and soap mild is false. Yes, you can formulate a harsh clothes washing detergent. But you can also formulate a very mild, natural detergent a la Dr. Bonners all purpose cleanser. A mild detergent will lather better in hard water and leaves less residue than a soap. This is why I am fine with using Dove soap on my hair.

ETA: my skin care routine is cleanse, Vitamin E cream for make-up removal, and various lotions for moisture and sun protection. I rotate between Olay products and ROC retinol products. I think I could improve on my skin care regime.

Louise

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Skincare- I use Environ which I get through my beautician. I use the facewash for blemished skin, the moisturiser which has Vitamin A in it so I need to use sunscreen and eyecream. I also have a face mask which can be worn overnight or used as a spot treatment. I go through cycles where I'm into a regular routine morning and night then I can't be bothered and just wash my face in the shower, needless to say my skin looks much better when I complete the routine twice daily. I've read many reviews about Clarisonic and am considering adding one to my routine (when I can be bothered!!)

I rarely wear makeup but do have all the essentials.

I have my hair cut and coloured every two months and in between I wash my hair every few days depending on how greasy it looks. I use shampoo and conditioner for colour treated hair, and leave it wrapped in a towel for as long as possible then put in either a leave in conditioner, morrocan oil or morrocan oil styling cream and then allow to air dry. I haven't blow dried or straightened in in ages except when the hairdresser does it x

danza.armonia

No Poo since 2008 and loving it! I use the Deva line, but have recently been swapping in Suave conditioner for the Deva no poo shampoo. I've also experimented with mixing in a little brown sugar with the conditioner for a scalp scrub (feels wonderful and the brown sugar rinses out easily afterward).

My skin care regimen is still in flux. Looking for a better cleansing regimen. Right now MD forte II cleanser at night, baby shampoo to cleanse face in the AM, MD forte III cream under Olay regenerist during the day time, regenerist alone at night. I just purchased the Olay version of the Clarisonic brush, but haven't used it much yet. For reference, I have oily acne prone skin.

Isabel

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Danza...since 2008 ??? Wow ! I am more determined than ever. I also just looked up how to make one's own conditioner.

CoCo, that is very interesting. I always thought that detergents were all harsh. But that makes sense. I use castile soap all the time.

thanks everyone.

Transcona Shannon

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Skincare - I use Burt's Bees all natural radiance line...almond bark cleanser, day cream with SPF, and night cream. I only use the cleanser at night and in the morning simply wash my face with water.

Makeup - I use a combination of Lauren Hutton Naturals and Cardmindy's Naturals line - both paraben and aluminum free, as well as other stuff I can't remember right now.

Shampoo - I use the Body Shop's Rain line (shampoo and conditioner) - again, no parabens, sulfates, etc. The gel I use in my hair is also from Body Shop and is their natural Bees Wax - smells heavenly.

Isabel

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Thanks Shannon. My interest is peaked with the Bees wax. I keep forgetting that Lauren Hutton has a natural's line. I am going to try just the water in the morning for face.

Scarlet

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CocoLion, do you mean you use liquid Dove?

I also only splash water on my face in the morning to get the sleep out of my eyes. If you think about it, washing your face again after just lying in bed really doesn't make any sense. I use a toner and a serum and then a little touch of moisturizer around my nose in the winter. Besides that I don't really need moisturizer. I also don't use body moisturizer. Anyone else out there who doesn't need moisturizer?

bj1111

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great question...this skin care and make up routine

night: wash face with safe gard. only soap that cleans without setting off my eczema/atopic dermatitis. slather on impruv. retin a prescription gel every other night on top.

day: slather on eucerin hyaluron day cream, neutrogena spf 50 or higher...typcally 80, colorscience wild to mild primer with spf 20, buff on t lecler loose powder, slash and blend nars the orgasm on cheeks then wipe blending finger across forehead at the hair root. presto a "natural" face.

Jenava

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I've been discovering beautypedia.com and Paula's choice products...very happy so far!

rae

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I've been paying more attention to my hands, neck, and chest since Angie's posts! I also tried out a moisturizing version of my BB cream to use in conjunction with my mattifying version because multiple posts mentioned that dewy skin looks more youthful. I still use the matte cream for my oily problem areas.

As for hair, I've gone in the other direction and started using more stuff: leave in heat protectant and hair wax - yes, I'm actually *styling* my hair after being inspired here. I may try this cleansing with conditioner business!

christieanne

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I love finding out about everyone's routines. And what products they love/tried/etc. I am kind of fickle but like to change things up.

Hair - I wash usually every other day. My hair is thick but fine so the conditioner washing didn't work well but i use a SLS-free shampoo although I switch between brands. Giovanni, John Masters and Goldwell are in the shower now. I also blow dry and use a heat guard (Nexxus) and some Loreal Serum creme to help straighten my straight hair.

Skin - I think there are three things that have kept my skin decent. 1) Washing faithfully every night (since I was 19 at least - I think I slept in makeup once and it was because i had to have emergency surgery four years ago lol) 2) Sunscreen 3) Naturally oily skin.

For washing at night I vary between Exuviance Gel for Oily Skin/St Ives Olive cleanser and Desert Essence Tea Tree Cleanser. If I am feeling drier or have more makeup on, I will use an oil cleanser first (Shu Uemera).
In the morning, I usually just use water or a mild cleanser like Cetaphil.

At night i use Neutrogena Acne Stress Control 3 in 1 lotion - salicylic acid and moisturizer combined. Retinol around eyes from Avene and then eye cream : Burts Bees Sensitive right now. A few times a week I use Vichy Norma Derm Anti Age lotion - it has glycolic acid. I will add a hyaluronic serum if feeling dry - locally made.
I also use an oil serum on hair or face/body if I have drier patches - Suki Balancing Serum but jojoba oil works well too. Regular lotions break me out but just a teeny bit of oil rebalances.

In the morning I sometimes use Avalon Organics Vitamin C serum (breaks me out if I use daily) and wait 20 min or so before sunscreen. Devita or Peter Thomas Roth Uber Dry for that. Eye Cream again. Then either light foundation, BB creme or just a mattifier and powder/concealer - depends on the occasion. Always powder over everything (I get really oily) which is MUFE HD typically.

Sounds like a lot but I can do my night routine in about 5 minutes and my morning in 10 (not including blow dry time/serum wait time - 20 minutes - that is the longest and it's a pain).

Isabel

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This is great !! Thank you !

Scarlet, I can't imagine going without moisturizer. Even when I was young...er, I always wore something. It was allot lighter than what I use now.

Geneva, I had never heard of beautypedia, I will have to check it out. Thanks. Coincidentally, I just learned of Paula's choice a couple of days ago. I also just learned of BB cream, Rae and Christieanne. I saw some at the drugstore and I came home and googled it. When I finish what I have now, I may try it. Though it may not be enough for me at 47. I think that it is great that you are doing all that at your ages. I wish that I had paid attention to the back of my hands earlier.

My biggest problem is that I want to stop experimenting and just stick to something ( Christieanne, I totally relate. I have to stop reading Allure.) There is just so much out there now that I could use something different every day.

I can't wait for Angie's follow up post.

Amy

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My hair and skin are extremely oily. While I don't wash my hair every day, I want to do it at least every other day. When I don't, my scalp becomes unbearably itchy and the oil on my hair gets on my skin and I break out.

I use alba shampoo and conditioner and like them a lot.

I try to wash my face twice a day with my clairisonic and a gentle cleanser like cetaphil. In the evening, I follow up with Clean and Clear toner, which contains salicyclic acid. I've tried gentler products like tea tree oil, but they do not work for me.

As I age, I've unfortunately discovered that I'm allergic to more and more things, like perfumes, blossoming trees, and ingredients in some make-ups. I stay away from most scented products at all costs. Since I stopped using perfumed products, the frequency of my headaches has diminshed significantly.

Also, I recently had an unfortunate incident with mineral make-up, which caused my skin to become inflamed, itchy and covered with cystic acne. The evil ingredient is bismuth oxycholoride, which apparently is a product of copper, lead and other minerals. My reaction to this makes a lot of sense, because I can't wear copper jewelry either. It makes me itch, too.

I haven't had a lot of luck with makeup. The mascara I use flakes during the day and lipstick never stays put and dries out my lips.

I do like the urban decay eye makeup primer I found recently, though. It works great!

Atlantia

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I love reading what everyone does!

For my skin, at night its a wash with Cetaphil foaming cleanser that gets rid of the makeup, too. I use Neutrogena anti wrinkle night cream, heavy lip balm at night, and Lemony Flutter cuticle butter once I get in bed. In the morning I splash with water when I'm in the shower, and follow up with Cetaphil with spf. Make up is a touch of concealer on circles and red patches, eyebrow powder, and blush.
Oh....and I get my eyelashes permed and tinted every two months!
Hair is shampoo and conditioner with whatever on Monday, conditioner "wash" on Thursday, and various amounts of spiking and mussing throughout the course of the week for maximum RATE effect.

Kate

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I got inspired after reading Angie's post on skin care to finally do something about mine. I now use a Peptoxyl cream (a wonderful non-comedogenic moisturizer) In the morning after I wash my face, and at night I use Replenix Power of Three cream followed by Peptoxyl and finally Replenix 5x Retinol serum. This regimen has relieved both my dry skin and the cystic acne on my chin that has been a near constant plague over the past 9 months.

As far as hair care, I too am planning on jumping onto the no poo wagon, starting tonight. I've been using the Giovanni products, which I really like, and will just continue on with their conditioner on my schedule of washing my hair once a week.

christieanne

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@Amy - I hear you on the combination of sensitive and oily skin. So many oily skin products are too harsh for sensitive. Mineral makeup with bismuth was a disaster for me as well (I had blocked that out of my mind I think). I also have to read labels and avoid anything with SD-alcohol and even witch hazel (distilled typically from alcohol) and that has cut down on redness and the oily/dry/oily/dry cycle.
Everyone thinks oily skin means hard as nails but it sure does not.:)

Clarisonic question - I have one and use maybe once a week now because I started seeing a few broken capillaries and wondered if I wasn't over doing the exfoliation. Has anyone else seen this? I did buy the replacement heads for sensitive skin recently so maybe that will help. Or maybe the two things are not related. Hmmm,.

CocoLion

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Scarlet, I used Dove beauty bar (or, Dove "soap" even though it's technically not), not the liquid soap, on my hair during the week.

Isabel

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Christieanne, When I first started using my Clarisonic in January, it was terrible. A couple of broken capillaries and little "wounds" that scabbed over as they healed. After reading up on using Clarisonic, it got so much better. Yes, use the sensitive brush. They also suggested that you start off once every other day and build up to twice a day, if you can tolerate it. And don't go over the pre-alloted time. It was also suggested that you not use other exfoliation methods while using Claisonic. Though I use retinol every night and vitamin C during the day. Now, it is just fab for me !

Amy, as I have been looking into make up, I have been utterly dumfounded by the amount of metal that goes into make up. They are still allowed to put "natural" on there, because heavy metals are natural and organic. I just discovered Coastal Creations, which has none of that stuff. I am going to try some out.

Kate, I have not heard of any of the products you mentioned. I will have to look them up.

Atlantia, where do you get a heavy lip balm ? I would LOVE one ! Though I do really like Alba un-patroleum ? AND YOU CAN PERM YOUR EYELASHES ? I have never heard of that. Now that is something that I would love to do. How often ? Is it expensive ?

Coco, that makes sense. For most of my childhood, we used an all-purpose soap bar that my mom would by at the European market. It is what her family used too. So much of this is marketing, I think.

Thanks ! I am learning so much. This is teaching me just how individual skincare is and how it takes a bit of trial an error. I am hoping that I figure this out in time to look good at my open casket wake, LOL!

Marley

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Hair care: I tried the "no shampoo" routine a few weeks ago when the first thread came up on the forum - and it was a disaster for me. I only wash my hair (with shampoo) usually twice a week anyway - but when I tried eliminating the shampoo altogether, my hair turned dull, frizzy looking and dry. I couldn't do anything with it. I tried it for a 10 days - and I just couldn't force myself to do it any longer - I was embarrassed to go out in public without a hat - and sometimes I don't want to wear a hat! I must admit I really don't get the "no shampoo" reasoning. My shampoo makes my hair feel so soft and smooth - I WANT to use shampoo! I also use styling products - can't imagine trying to style my hair without them! They give my hair volume, shine and add that touseled look or smooth (whichever way I'm going!) look that I'm after.

As far as skin care goes - I've always been pretty careful with my skin care - and have used various products throughout the years (depending on my finances!) Currently, I am using a combination of Oil of Olay, Arrbonne, and Dermologics.

Make-up? Everyday. Lancome foundation, Nars or MAC blush, Bare Minerals powder, MAC or Bare Minerals eye shadow, MAC powder or gel eye-liner, Lancome water-proof mascara, MAC eyebrow pencil, Lancome undereye concealer and eye-shadow base.

taylor

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I am with you Marley!
I am a hairstylist and I cannot imagine any reason NOT to wash the scalp...you wash the rest of your body! The only people who could possible benefit from~ less~ scalp washing are those with extremely dry scalp and very curly/frizzy hair. Those who never blow dry and use absolutely no products at all... ever.
When you shampoo you should really be cleansing the scalp. It doesn't need to be done daily but......hair and scalp do get dirty and oily(oil glands and sweat glands in the scalp) hair picks up odors like smoke, food and a host of other orders by just walking by something...like a BBQ. Conditioner does not cleanse the scalp remove oil ,odors or sweat. I am just baffled by this no shampoo practice.

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