The grey are sized up & the toffee are my size. My question is about size mostly & if you like any at all. There seems to be too much scrunch or it doesn't play well with shoe choices & I feel like they look too big, not so much on the hips in smaller toffee one but something seems off. I'm not in love with either but if I can't figure out why. If I find a size I like I might get both colours as I haven't found any other full length winter pant. I'm trying with these shoes as they are work pants & need to work with flat shoes for some of my jobs.

Sorry for so many pics but I'm showing with more refined flat oxfords & chunkier low heeled bootie. I think they may only look good with heels, though I loved the styled photo of them on BR website with sneakers. They were very slouchy in that shot too so I'm unsure why the slouch doesn't look good on me.

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