I went to NAS yesterday. More on that later but I just wanted to first take the time and highly encourage you (like Angie did in her post) to try on Kut from the Kloth skinnies. The rise is *perfect* for my muffin top - not too high, not too low. The wash is great. It was wonderful in every way and I ended up buying 3 pairs since it's so hard for me to find good fit in jeans and the price was great too at the sale. I won't be on the forum much this week but I hope those of you in the market for skinnies will give this a shot.