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K/R Angie recommended BR camel trouser

Transcona Shannon

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While in BR last night getting my MIL a lovely cardigan for Christmas, I spotted the camel herringbone trousers that Angie has recommended. I tried them in the petite but the rise was completely wrong so took a stab and tried the regular size. They are of course about 5 inches too long so I've folded them under for now.

I think the fit is good, the fabric is divine and I love the subtle herringbone pattern. They are an extremely versatile colour. And the best part? They were 40% off yesterday for Black Friday sale! These could be total work horse trousers for me and I'm kind of off skinnies these days - I think wider legs are more flattering on my shape.

My one concern is can a bigger gal like myself wear a lighter coloured trouser? What do you think of the fit? Are these "keepers"?

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Latest reply was from Transcona Shannon

Emily

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I think they look great on you, Shannon! Color and all. Keep.

Jenava

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These are great! Good color for you. The back view is a little tight, but I have this exact same problem with trousers and completely ignore it and feel fab, so I think these are lovely and you should definitely KEEP.

lyn67

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Yes, you can! fab fit and colour!

Suz

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Wow, look how well those work with TAUPE!! Had I known that, I'd have ordered a pair for myself! Sheesh.

I like them a lot, Shannon. Agree with Jeneva that the back view looks a wee bit snug. However, as someone who also has this issue with trousers quite often (it's typically associated with the relationship between the rise and having an actual bottom) I also wonder if they might ease a bit with wear. What about trying them around the house for an hour or two? I often find that my pants really do relax a lot in that area - not "bag out" but just ease somehow.

And if the comfort factor is there, then you are fine. They are an elegant looking trouser and you wear them well!

ManidipaM

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I'm hopeless with trouser fit but can see no issues, so I'll only say I'm seeing the beginnings of a great camel capsule with that toning top! (No, I daresay you weren't planning to... but still! so fun with that print!)

Sona

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I have them and I'm not tiny. I say keep!!

Raisin

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They look so good! Keep if they fill a need in your wardrobe.

Deborah

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Shannon, I'm not sure on the fit here. This is one where I would love Angie to weigh in. Are these a wide leg pant or bootleg cut? I think they fit in some places but not others and this would be a deal breaker for me. To ,y eye there appears to be excess fabric at the thighs. It is hard to fully assess because there is so much additional fabric at the bottom, but as lovely as these are and the color is wonderful on you, I am going to say return. I am going to take a look at your expresso(?) pants and just review there fit tho.

cheryle (Dianthus)

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I'm not 100% on the fit either. I think you are getting a bit of the crotch pull and the lower part of the legs seems a bit too voluminous. Perhaps it is the lighter color that is emphasizing the width though. I just looked at the pics again and wonder if it might be the rise that is a touch short and that is causing the bit of pull under the tush and across the front.

I think you wear pants well and these aren't as nice a fit as most of your faves. Sorry.

Gaylene

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OK, Ms. Fussy BackFit here. I tried on those BR pants a few weeks ago and was not impressed with the fit--and, with my IT shape, normally I have no trouble fitting a Sloan or Martin BR pant. But, in spite of not having any hips and a smaller rear, I had the same creeping up in the bottom crotch area in the back. In my opinion, these pants would be best suited to someone who has a short rise in the back. That would let the fabric fall straight over the back thigh area instead of pulling.

That said, I think a camel pant looks just fine on you. And, as others have pointed out in one of Suz's threads, not everyone is as fussy as I am about the back view. Having 200+ eyes focusing on your rear in a typical day at work does make one VERY careful about the back fit.

Transcona Shannon

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Hmmmm.....definitely a split view here....

They don't feel snug in the bottom and they are incredibly comfortable. There is some stretch in the fabric and as Suz wondered, I suspect they would "ease" with wearing.

Deborah - they are a wide legged trouser and not bootcut, if that makes a difference. Is it possible the excess fabric you see is due to the extra 5 inches of fabric tucked under the leg causing it to not fall/drape properly? If so, there's not much I can do about that at the moment.

Ingunn

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I'm with Suz here, I think they have great potential. My concern is the width around the calves, you might want to have them narrowed/tapered a bit at the bottom. I think the fabric will ease into a very good fit. Love the color!

Deborah

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Thanks Shannon. Knowing what cut I'm looking at just helps in terms of how I then expect the pants to fit and hang. I have just had a look at your Espirit Espresso pants and I think they are a brilliant fit...how do the camel ones compare in your mind?

Transcona Shannon

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My Esprit trousers are in a class of their own Deborah - I have NEVER had trousers fit as well as those. They are a lower rise than the BR Sloans and definitely fit my tush better (they aren't tight in the backside but rather "cup" it well, if that makes any sense). They also are not as wide legged as these. Maybe these are too wide legged for short me?

Just noticed that Angie referred to these trousers as "flared" in her description of them in her store.

Deborah

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The Espirit pants are quite fabulous! That make sense! As a flared pant, I understand the fit of the camel pants better however this then highlights for me further what I think is extra fabric at the thigh. I hope my comments aren't discouraging. You have such wonderful style and I think youur attention to fit has a lot to do with how incredible your outfits look on you. Do you think the style is more like these of Angie's?

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Transcona Shannon

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Goodness no, Deborah - not discouraging at all. Even at 40% off I am not interested in buying/keeping pants that don't fit right. I wouldn't post a K/R if I didn't want honesty

I do think you're on to something regarding them being more like Angie's trousers that you linked to. It is interesting that you think there is excess fabric in the thigh because the feel of the pants on does not suggest that. I can feel the fabric against my skin in other words. Hmmmm...

DonnaF

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Shannon; I would love to see how these fit in back after you've worn them around the house for several hours. I think you CAN wear this color, but IMHO the width at the bottom (by the ankles) adds pounds. But maybe I'm saying this because my similarly styled pale gray Express Editors make me feel this way, and I rather regret buying such wide pants. I personally find straight legs/stove pipes to be the most flattering, but that width is very hard to find, especially in a mid-rise.

Gaylene

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When we did pants fitting at the tailoring classes, we were taught that fabric creases point to the problem areas. Today's use of stretch in woven fabrics makes it easier for a greater number of body shapes to "fit" into a pair of pants, but now creasing tends to happen where the fabric is "using" the stretch to conform to the actual body shape.

The back view of these pants shows the creasing occurs in a diagonal line from the outside mid-hip to the inside upper thigh. To fit Shannon's unique body shape, the pants need a bit more fabric at these two points; right now the "extra fabric" is being supplied by the stretchiness of the fabric which pulls between these two points which leads to the creasing. If there was extra fabric at the side seam and the inner thigh, a tailor could redo the seams to provide a bit more fabric at these points and the creases would magically disappear.

Since women's ready-made pants don't provide the extra fabric (which men's pants often do--terribly unfair, in my opinion) the only way to get a perfect fit is to buy a larger size and get the pants altered. Or to buy this size and live with a less than perfect rear view. Or to hope that the fabric will eventually stretch out, and remain there, to provide that extra bit of fabric.

In a tailored pair of pants like these, you should not be able to see the back upper thigh area shape clearly through the pant. Ladies with skinny thighs rarely have this problem for obvious reasons, but those ladies with a curvier thigh and posterior often settle for a less than perfect fits because the stretchiness of the fabric makes the pant look acceptable from the front.

Transcona Shannon

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Thank you all for weighing in. I think there are enough questions to warrant returning these.

Sveta

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Shannon, I am sorry they did not work for you. Light trousers do highlight all problem areas unfortunately.
You have so many fab things in your wardrobe that you should not settle for anything less than perfect!

krishnidoux

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Gaylene, that is such a good explanation! Thank you.

catgirl

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I'm not 100% happy with these on you, Shannon, having seen you in much better. Sorry.... BR pants don't work on me either, except the one pair I have.

Transcona Shannon

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No need to be sorry Sveta and Una. They just don't fit me right. Moving on...

Gaylene - I need to be honest and say I found your comments a wee bit insensitive referring to me as having a "unique body shape" and the repeated comment on the need for extra fabric to cover me. As someone who is a bit sensitive about her size, I could have done without that particular wording.

Mochi

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Hi, Shannon. I like the color on you. Not having read others' comments, I am thinking that my issue is not the color but that there is a lot of baggyness from the upper thigh downward. From the below the knee, it's particularly baggy. Your legs look like they're swimming in these flares. Your wardrobe is always so spot-on so I feel comfortable saying that these aren't quite on that level.

Jaime

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I think the color is great for you, but it sounds like the fit concerns are trumping that. The only thought I would add is that if you want to make the extra effort, you might bring them to your magic tailor and see what she says. I often have that excess amount of length at the bottom and find no amount of tucking under (which I try) makes them fall the same way as when they are properly hemmed.

Atlantia

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I haven't read through the comments, but I LOVE the color of these trousers. The fit seems a bit off, maybe something about the rise? I vote return, but you absolutely NEED a pair of stone colored trousers.

Suz

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I think the fit issues with trousers are always going to be frustrating for some of us. I have never found pants easy to fit, no matter what my weight or size. It is one reason I used to gravitate more strongly towards skirts and dresses. I think ITs are pretty much the only body type that finds trousers relatively easy, and no doubt there are still some fit issues for them as well.

I did notice that even in the photo of the model wearing these, they are snug on the seat. So perhaps that is exactly the way they are intended to fit.

Transcona Shannon

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Already back in the bag ready to be returned. I've always been curious about how the BR Sloans would fit and now I know. No worries.

Sveta

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Shannon, a lot of us have fit issues with trousers. Sloan fit looks hideous on me - much worse than on you!
I have ordered 2 pairs of white trousers from BR but my hopes are so slim...unlike me!:-)

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