Just wanted to add that even the ITs have trouble with pants. One of my best friends is very slim and straight through the hips and most pants ride up because they are cut to narrow to the waist and her body doesn't so they seem to climb seeking higher ground. We all have issues - they just aren't the same ones.

Let the search continue.

Shannon I actually gave up looking for new black trousers over winter as I could not find one pair that fit well. I am not suggesting you stop looking just sharing really that a high percentage of women struggle to find a good ditto g pair of trousers. I will recommend my quest next Autumn:)

Oh, Shannon, I'm so sorry that my comments offended you. I truly never meant to cause hurt feelings. I feel terrible that my comments hurt your feelings. I was just trying to help you figure out some of the fit issues that I saw in the picture you posted.

As someone who has done a lot of sewing and tailoring, part of the challenge which I enjoy is figuring out how to make garments fit perfectly on a wide variety of bodies. I was in a bit of a hurry when I wrote that comment and feel terrible that my comments were hurtful rather than helpful.

Ladies, ladies, ladies - it's ok the pants don't fit correctly I'm not upset that they are being returned. This is why we post K/R - to get honest feedback and I totally appreciate your comments and insights.

Gaylene - I would like to apologize for what I said earlier. I'm obviously feeling a little overly sensitive these days and I truly know you meant no offence. Do not give this another thought, ok?