Shiny, that's interesting about getting a certain number of veggies/fruit to lose weight. I've thought of trying something like that and am glad it works for you. Do you count a serving of beans as a veggie or protein?

I've gained six pounds since I started dieting about eight months ago. Back then, I wanted to lose ten pounds. For a week, I'd be really strict about what I ate -around 1200 calories a day, maybe, and I'm 5'6" and muscular. Inevitably, I'd snap and eat everything that wasn't nailed down for another week. So, obviously, this way of dieting isn't working but moderation is sooo hard. uggh.

What an inspiring weight loss story! You and your sister look fantastic. Kudos to you, I know how difficult it can be but you're reaping the rewards all the way to your goal weight loss.

Chewy - food intolerances in kids is a huge issue these days and it's great to see that you're tackling it as a family. I know it's not your diet of choice but I encourage you to break from it once in a while and make seperate meal choices, not all the time just sometimes when you have a craving. I've been a teacher for a while and my mentor once said to me "Being fair does not mean that every one gets the same thing. Being fair means everyone gets what they need." Don't forget your needs too.

Kari - I'm so onboard with the idea of retraining your brain. Certain foods like sugar, salt, and fat become habitual. Babies are not born craving ice cream, we train ourselves to fall into those patterns. I "trained" myself off sugar or equal in my coffee. I "trained" myself to like bananas (eventhough I thought they were smelly and yucky). I trained myself (or in this case beat myself silly) to stop drinking all sodas. I switched to seltzer and I couldn't be happier.

My weight battle started when I realized I suffered from an eating disorder. No, not the starving kind, and no not the purging kind either. I suffer from the other kind, that no one ever talks about... binge eating, commonly referred to as compulsive over-eaters. It is a debilitating condition that I wish on nobody. Treatment is much like treament of addictions.

Obviously diets don't work in this case because binge-eating is a different kind of animal all together. I started therapy in January and now I'm finally dealing with my issues. I refuse any kind of diet programs because I know that the only thing that will work for me is to stop bingeing. All though the therapy has been long and intense I did not attempt any kind of weight loss until 2 weeks ago. I'm learning how to deal with my impulses and avoid getting hungry and frustrated. I'm exercising and eating what I want in moderation. 1200 calorie diets send me into a violent binge after 2 days or so. I have to stay within a 2000 range and exercise every day to maintain control for now.

Two weeks later and with very little effort I've lost 11lbs. Change your mind, change your life.

Another one here who has a few pounds to lose. I'm about 35 pounds above what I weighed when I got married almost 12 years ago. I don't have a goal weight and am not following a plan currently. I've lost and gained and lost and gained weight over the years. About a year ago I had lost about 20 pounds with diet changes, but then we moved to a different state, had career changes for both, and lots of other stress and I gained it all back. So right now I'm not dieting at all. I try to stop when I'm full, indulge when I feel like I need it but only if I really want it, eat more fruits and veggies and things like that but I don't beat myself up about anything. Instead of focusing on eating, for the first time in my life I'm really focusing on exercise. My husband and I are doing a couch-to-5k running program right now. On the off days, I usually do stretches, situps, pushups, and that sort of thing or I do Pilates. I figure that if I can maintain a healthy exercise program, some of my eating issues will work themselves out. If it doesn't work that way, then I'll rethink things later but at least I'll be more active in the meantime.

Michelle - the latest Good Housekeeping magazine featured several women who had lost a lot of weight. One of the ladies was wheelchair bound (I think due to CP) and lost 100 pounds by diet alone because she was unable to exercise. Her motivation for the weight loss was that she was getting a service dog and she wanted to be able to care for him. Your situation is different, of course, but I thought of that when I read that your motivation is similar.

Virtually nobody should be on a 1200 calorie diet - unless you are completely bed-ridden and very short. I'm only 5'0" and even though the calorie counters suggest I should eat 1200-1300 calories to maintain my weight, I have found that isn't true. When I was dieting in 2006-2007, I plotted everything out - counted calories with precision, tracked my weight loss, etc. I found that when I ate 1200 calories or less, my weight loss completely stalled out. But when I ate around 1500, my weight loss was steady and consistent - just slow. There are no quick fixes but you really will do better eating close to what your body needs to maintain, and subtract no more than 300 calories. And this is more true the closer you are to your goal. If you are working on the last 10 lbs, the only way to get it off is to make minor changes and then be patient.

Charlotte, I probably should add a little more background. The first steps for me was changing my diet to cut out the excess animal fat, fast food, huge bowls of ice cream and other crap. That's what I did 15 years ago with my initial weight loss. I now eat fast food about once or twice a year, and when I do, I get a small fry, small burger, with water. When I eat ice cream I use teeny tiny bowls and only have about 1/2 cup. I don't think I've had a Snicker's in a decade. I practice portion control. Etc. This type of eating has become a way of life for me, and is deeply ingrained by now.

I think at age 43 (almost 44 now), age and hormones are playing a role in my weight fluctuations. What worked 5, 10, 15 years ago to control and maintain my weight is not enough to combat the gradual slowing down of my metabolism.

So *If* you've done all that and you generally eat healthy but are finding you are still gaining weight, then the veggie strategy is a great thing to try. I like this because I find it's easier to count veggies rather than calories. And if you're going to obsess over your diet, why not obsess over ADDING something healthy, instead of always subtracting? Grr.

I do not count beans as a veggie; I count them as a protein. But I do count avocado and other higher-calorie veggies/fruits and do not worry about the calories in them. I figure that the health value of the food outweighs the calories. I rarely ever drink fruits though - I'd rather have the whole fruit, because it's not just about the vitamins and antioxidants, it's very much about the fiber, which fills you up. All that crunching and munching also helps to satisfy.

Oh - and I *do* add a bit of fat to my veggies!!! Because the vitamins are fat-soluble so you aren't getting the full value if you don't. I keep it to a minimum, just a splash of olive oil goes a long way.

So give it a try... aim to have at least 3 servings of fruits/veggies at each meal ... it's not as easy as it sounds. Let me know how it works for you and how you feel!

Charlotte I agree with Shiny i think if you eat too little and deny yourself too much you're liable to fail.

I lost a stone last year with slimming world and the lady who ran it INSISTED we had our 'sins' each day. I always had my sins and was steadily losing 2lb a week my friend had more to lose and felt she would do it quicker leaving out the sins but on several weeks she lost nothing.

I no longer go anymore as i was happy with losing a dress size and a stone however the eating habits are pretty ingrained and i still have my 'sins' x

Shiny, thanks for your help. I will definitely try this and let you know how it goes.
Loulou, I like the "sins" part
It is so hard for me to be intelligent about food. I always blame my lack of will-power, but now will try not to.
The time I am most likely to have problems is in the evening when I want to de-stress. Carbs seem like such a natural mood stabilizer but eating them in moderation, especially in the evening, is hard for me.

Kari and others on the sugar cravings - I do agree on reprogramming your brain at least initially. I had cut out very fatty, sugary and other "junk" foods for about a month replacing them with fruits, vegies, whole grains, etc.

Now when there is something I want a bit of I will have a bit. Such as a grilled sausage at a BBQ - I had half and felt satisfied. I have to say that later my stomach told me I shouldn't have done it! Hope that isn't TMI. Your body adjusts to things is all.

With sugary things - I still crave sweet and have replaced junky carbs/treats with fruit and yogurt or occasionally a bit of chocolate pudding. Also, making smoothies with frozen fruit, frozen banana, yogurt and frozen juice cubes can make almost a sorbet.
Oh and if I just want a piece of good chocolate - I will go after the one or two peices that are quality and worthwhile.

I do feel more energetic and better even if the outside results have not been exactly what I want - it is worth it.

I completely agree with the detox strategy. I can resist chocolate quite easily - it won't even appeal to me - unless I have a bite. Like, if the hostess serves chocolate cake and it would be impolite of me to take a sliver. Next thing I know, I am craving chocolate and eating it every day. Break the cycle with detox period and the cravings go away again.

I'm the exact same way with french fries and potato chips, only worse. I have an even bigger weakness for them! I am on potato chip detox right now. I think these extra pounds are ALL potato chips! I did finally weigh myself and I've gained 6 lbs since January (the last time I weighed myself). That's 6 lbs of potato chips... whoa!

BlondeAmbition-

That is exactly why we eat separate breakfast,lunch and snacks. I can do dinner her way, but I couldn't eat that way all the time un less I had to. DH also will BBQ meat sometimes, and do fish for dd- she does east fish, but I can't stand it.

If you eat under 1200 calories, it puts your body into starvation mode and it will actually hold on to fat- so don't skimp on your calories!

Well ladies- I joined a gym. I never thought that I would do that, but I did. I have gone to two classes now, and plan to go to more. I haven't used the equiptment yet, but I'm sure that I will. I really have enjoyed the classes, and I got more of a workout than I would at home.

I'm having such a great time reading this thread! There is so much wisdom here, and I really appreciate everyone's balanced and moderate approaches. Shiny, I especially like the idea of counting vegetables and am going to try that. Do you could veggies AND fruit, or just veggies?

I'm trying to cook things at home as much as possible. On the weekend I made eggs benedicts using a sauce mix, and organic eggs and ham. Then on the side we had grapefruit, strawberries, and salad instead of hashed browns. Best of all, it took less than 10 minutes to put together

I am also at the edge of my BMI - I might have actually crept up into the overweight category in the last few weeks (we've had some stressful times for the last couple of months). Like Shiny, I am 5' so technically I should be around 100 pounds! Yikes, if I go by my weight at 18, I would disappear - I was only about 94 lbs and looked like a stick. I don't think that would be realistic for me personally anymore but I am not happy where I am now.

I have been working out like a mad woman (although I have slacked off for the last few weeks and it shows!) but it only gets me so far so I know it's time that I worked on my diet. It's just been so difficult with my husband at home. In the past, I always weighed my lowest when the two of us were separated (for job related reasons not THAT kind of separation). I am literally cooking three meals a day now whereas before I might just make a peanut butter sandwich or a salad for myself at lunch. The good thing is that we are cooking at home almost exclusively instead of going out and generally eating healthier (more produce, less salt etc) but we are eating ALOT.

I am particularly concerned about my weight for health reasons. I developed pre-eclampsia in my last pregnancy and unfortunately, my BP never went down. I have been looking into the DASH diet which is not only good for lowering BP but for weight loss and general health.

The discussion about retraining your body & brain to crave different foods is really interesting!

Skinny Cow products are great for a dessert craving, and Weight Watchers also has really yummy chocolate & nut covered toffee ice cream bars. However, dessert is not my pitfall - I could truly live without dessert except for special occasions only, and usually I do - but I really crave sugary, salty snacks. I know that I can replace it with fruit (which doesn't really do enough to kick the sugar craving) or nuts (but only in limited quantity) or find a healthier version of chips if I'm craving something salty and crunchy, but essentially I feel like I'm just encouraging the craving. That's why I think I need to go cold turkey for a few weeks until my brain and taste buds adjust to lower quantities of sugar & salt.

I love the suggestion to eat at least 3 fruits/veggies at each meal. Adding something is so much more manageable to me than counting calories - I am not a number-cruncher! I could do this at most meals except breakfast. Usually I have a couple pots of tea, sometimes a bowl of cereal, and then two cans of V-8. I suppose the V-8 counts as two servings, though. Maybe I can add an orange.

These are fabulous ideas and I’m impressed with the motivation and serious strategies. Wow. Go YLF’ers!

I have one small tidbit to add, and please take my suggestion for what it’s worth to you:

Greg went on a serious, life changing eat properly diet about two years ago. He had put on 35 pounds in four years and was at a point in his life where he wanted to get back to the weight that he had been for most of his adult life. He put me in charge and I’m still in charge. It took Greg under a year to lose all the weight and bar a couple of pounds here and there it has successfully stayed off. He is also very adamant to keep it off. So, Greg stood on a scale everyday – sometimes twice a day and I was the one that encouraged it. He absolutely wanted to stand on a scale as much as possible. This strategy REALLY helped Greg lose weight. At the end of the day, I guess its horses for courses and you have to do what works best for you. Anyway, just in case anyone is looking for an alternative approach I thought I'd share ours.

What inspirational stories!! I hope that those of you who need a jumpstart receive one from this thread.

Here are couple of recipes I use. I don't really measure when I cook, but these are estimates, adjust as needed:

Turkey Tacos

8 oz. of ground turkey(I like Jennie-O) will make approximately 6 to 8 tacos depending on how meaty you like them.

6 corn tortillas

4 oz. Fat free shredded cheese

2 Tbsp light or fat free sour cream

2 Tbsp Salsa or Picante Sauce

lettuce

tomato

Cook and season ground beef to your liking. I use Goya and ground cumin and dice onions in my ground turkey.

Spray skillet with non stick cooking spray(I use Pam olive oil cooking spay) and fry taco shells until crispy. You can also use the pre-made shells, but I like to fry mine.

Assemble tacos. I add meat, sour cream, lettuce, tomato, cheese and then salsa.

You can also make breakfast tacos the same way using turkey patties or turkey bacon and eggs. Apply cheese and salsa and then eat. You can also use whole wheat flour tortillas.

This really is a great discussion, thanks all for sharing tips and strategies.
Angie, it's so interesting that Greg *wanted* to weigh himself frequently. For me, the weekly weigh-in demanded by Weight Watchers always brought on a period of anxiety, followed by either elation or total disappointment. It was a necessary part of the process, but for me I know frequent weighing would be psychologically disastrous. You're so right about finding whatever strategy works for you. Congratulations to you and Greg for developing such a successful program, btw.

I'm completely in agreement with those who advocate moderation of all foods, and I love the term sins! Just as society immediately gravitates towards anything that has had a taboo slapped on it, my brain will start to put up a fight as soon as I put a ban on any particular food. If I let myself have it in moderation, I'm less likely to fall off the rails. I'm parroting WW philosophy here, but I really do think it's key to eat what your body needs, not a pre-set and possibly arbitrary number of callories. The WW approach is: the more you weigh, the more you're allowed to eat. As the pounds come off, the amount of permissable food decreases slowly. As someone who had success with that system (it's my own fault that it didn't fully last), I can vouch for the effectiveness of that approach. You train your body to eat less over time, but it's done in such a way that you don't really notice the decrease. You just need less to feell full. That system also helped me detox from all the junk I was eating, which like Kari seems to be a necessary process for me.

Btw, true to promise I went back to my weight loss regime this week, due largely to the people and conversation on this forum. With some luck, my body will thank you later.

I have to admit that I am a chronic weigh-er, too Angie. I have always read that you should not weight yourself more than once a week (and I do have a certain "Weigh In" day), but I do weight myself every day at least once. For me, I was so disconnected with my own weight that I needed to learn my own natural fluctuations, and really see the connection between that number and what I eat. Now I know that I weigh more at night than in the morning, and a few days before my period I usually experience a couple pound loss. I know that a salty meal will cause a temporary gain, as will not drinking enough water. I think that weighing myself in the morning will be something that I do every day for the rest of my life most likely.

Michelle- congrats and we are here for you every step of the way!

Brianna - yes, I count both veggies AND fruit.

Here is a typical day:

Breakfast: non-fat yogurt smoothie with one banana and one cup frozen berries

Lunch: giant salad with 3 servings fruits/veggies, 1 serving protein, 1 cheese, 1 TB olive oil in the dressing

Dinner: another 3 servings, for example, in a stirfry, 1 serving protein, 2 servings carbs (like rice), 1 TB olive oil to cook; or 1 bowl of veggie soup, fish, a grain, another veggie, and fruit for dessert; or pasta with veggies and tomato sauce.... you get the idea. Plus glass of wine and maybe a skinny cow bar.

Snacks: handful of nuts, carrots and olives (for my salt tooth), etc (depends on my craving!)

This is fairly low-carb (not Atkins but more like South Beach levels), because my body seems to do best with lower carbs. Also I'm short. So most people will need more carbs than this!!! So do not follow this exact plan unless you are 5'0" and 43 years old.

Kari - try the smoothie for breakfast. It's so fast to make (if you have a stick blender clean-up is a breeze), and you can even sip it in the car on the way to work. I have never been a breakfast eater - my stomach rebels first thing in the morning -but this I can do. Otherwise, on weekends my "go-to" brunch is an omelet stuffed with veggies.

Angie - I'm in 100% agreement that daily weighing is the way to go. However, I just get too obsessed with it. So I have a bargain with myself: if I'm within my happy weight by +/-5 lbs, then I do not need to weigh every day. If I go over that range (which I know because of how my clothes are fitting), then I am back to weighing. Since I gained 6 lbs since January, this means I am back to weighing. If I don't start weighing again, then it's just too easy for the weight to pile back on. I'd rather nip it in the bud early. That doesn't mean I'll stop weighing once I lose one lb and get back into my happy range; I will continue weighing until I get down to the center of my happy weight (the full 6 lbs - which, by the way my clothes are fitting, is definitely 6 lbs of potato chip fat, and not water weight). I think because I've caught this early enough, I don't need to go too overboard with the weighing of food and counting of calories - I am thinking just simple mindfulness and dietary tweaks are all that I need. The scale helps with the mindfulness!

I too weigh, myself most mornings for similar reasons and have so in 3 out of 4 (those being when I had scales at home) of my weight loss periods. I think once you realise those sort of fluctuation exist, it would be hard to trust a weekly or less often weigh-in - what if you were just having one of those abberations and it was that day?

I also do it when I am at my normal weight (like now). I have a "range" and if I get to the top of it I know I need to do something about it. But it isn't something I have big issues with or am obsessed about and it is definitely on of those things that varies from person to person.

Angie, may we ask what you got Greg to do? (Only if, and in as much detail as you feel comfortable, of course)

Hey, I had to pipe in here to comment on the 1,200-calorie-a-day thing. It's interesting, because after I had my second son, I went to a registered dietician, and she told me the same thing that everyone here is saying. She wanted me to eat 1,400 calories a day, and not much less, because she said that in her experience, if you eat 1,200 calories a day, the second you go out for dinner, or have some kind of diet slip-up, you'll find that the scale pops up a few pounds and you'll have a hard time getting it back down. And then, you get freaked out and depressed and it's hard to stay on the diet.

We're not imagining it!

For the record, I'm going on my 1,400 cal/day diet and exercising 3-4 times a week for the summer. I'm on the high end of my normal weight range, so I'm going to try this to keep a lid on any potential gain. I'm going to weigh in daily - as a woman, it can make you a bit crazy because of water weight shifts, but I agree that it's the best way to be vigilant. As Shiny said, now that I'm in my 40s, it doesn't take much for pounds to creep up on me.

Thinking positively does a world of good. With the help of my therapist I created a list of reasons why I wanted to lose weight and I read this list every day as affirmation.

I try to remember that motivation has little to do with keeping a healthy lifestyle. Being healthy is a series of little tiny choices that in the end turn out to make a big difference. Little choices like "how much cereal should I eat" "should I eat the proferred chocolate?" etc.... all day long these add up to a feeling of success at the end of your day. Sometimes I make good choices sometimes not so good. But as long as the good outweigh the bad then I don't beat myself up about it too much.

I try never to take away things from myself, and instead I add. Add vegetables, add exercise, add stretching, add add add.

Exercise - Usually I get everywhere early (I hate being late). In the past I would use that extra 15 minutes or so to grab a donut or read in my car. But now I walk around (easy to do in manhattan but maybe a litttle bit harder if out at a strip mall). Instead of lying down on the couch during commercial breaks I pick up the dumbells and work on my arms.

I got a pedometer and make sure I reach my 10,000 step goal everyday. Walking in the grocery store counts. Steps to the car count. All steps count.

It's all in the details right?

1200 seems low, I agree. I settled on 1350 as right for me after consulting numerous books and websites. Some advised as high as 1500 and some as low as 1200. There are days I am not hungry (imagine that!) and not working physically so 1200 is possible and other days when I need more nourishment or have a big event on the calendar.
Seeking balance in all things - food, exercise, time, life - to be ready for the long run.

Shiny- thanks for posting that. It's always helpful to see what works for someone else.

Laura- It's nice to hear that the expert validated that idea.

Blonde Ambition- it *is* all in the details!

Chris- that's great, and I think we're all seeking that kind of balance.

I've been "stuck" at the same weight for the last month, after losing 40 pounds without much problem. I think that I am actually not eating enough (especially since I'm working out more), and am going to try upping my calories to the top of my range to see if that helps. I am stuffed and feeling like a pig eating that much, which is a clue that I haven't been eating enough since I'm still in my range.

I am trying to not eat sugar. Like Shiny, once I start eating chocolate or something sweet, I don't want to stop. When I haven't had any for a while I'm fine. The biggest problem for me is that the detox process puts me in an awful mood. I'm not hungry at all, but am really feeling mean and cranky. Does anyone else have this? and what do you do?

So far, I've tried making sure I sleep enough and get a walk in. Have also warned family that it's not them

Anne and Shiny, you hit the nail on the head. Weighing yourself every day nipped things in the bud pronto and kept Greg motivated instead of unmotivated. It also became very scientific and interesting to him – to see incremental fluctuations pending on what he ate and how much he moved. I have always weighed myself everyday just because I like to know, and now Greg does too. It REALLY works for us because it’s helpful.

Anne, I’m happy to share the rudimentaries with you. Greg and I are big foodies and I LOVE to cook. We won’t eat anything fake – just have less of the good stuff. So the motto is: eat food, not too much, mostly plants. Keep the menu VERY, VERY varied.

We eat vegetarian often. Lots and lots of GREEN vegetables – both raw and cooked. Lots of Asian food and French food. No mammals, pasta or potatoes at all. Greg loves veggies and cheese so this part was easy. We have lots of thick, dark, dense Euro bread at home and that’s Greg’s main carb. Greg is not big on fruit so he doesn’t have a lot of that. He never gave up wine, caffeine or chocolate – just had much less of it. We never counted calories or carbs. When we go out Greg eats whatever he wants but he enjoys healthy food so it’s easy for him. I religiously make Greg’s lunch every day so that I can guarantee that he’s having a healthy meal at work. I also make supper about 5 times a week. I actually really enjoy doing this so it’s not a chore. I hope I've helped.

I have been watching silently but I just wanted to say that Angie's eating habits sound a lot like those advocated by Michael Pollan. He has written a lot about diet...not dietING...but about what real food is, and how far removed from it our current eating habit have become. His advice, in summary, is to eat mostly plants and legumes, and cook everything yourself. If you cook it yourself, chances are that it is actual food. It's a very interesting read, and it really never occurred to me just how absurd it is that humans are the only animals that really need to be told what to eat!

On that note, I love veggies, especially crunchy crudité types. I always keep some kind of dipping sauce and a box of cut up veggies in the fridge and it is a lot more satisfying than it sounds. I prefer eating veggies this way to eating them in a salad. I do this about once a week, and that way I can't even use sheer laziness as an excuse.

Shiny, smoothies in the morning sound delicious!

I think I'd need to pre-assemble the ingredients the night before and make sure everything was ready to go in the morning - I get up pretty early already for work, and just barely have time to run downstairs and brew tea that I drink while I'm getting ready, and sometimes I have time to grab a bowl of cereal, then I down two cans of V-8 when I get to work.

I know I'm not making time for it right now, but I know part of the weight issue is related to what Maya and Angie were talking about - eating self-cooked food instead of what is processed. I'm hoping that in a couple months when life calms down I'll be able to change my food-prep routine to something that is healthier.

Lots of great tips in this thread - Khris, thank you very much for starting this up. I've really enjoyed reading the advice and strategies and hopefully will put some to use.

Kari, we made the switch from take-out/processed foods to homecooked along with the other parts of our diet, and it was so much easier than I thought it would be! Turns out, there are plenty of things to eat for dinner that actually could be put together in less time than it took to order a pizza (our downfall). We do a lot of salads with hot meats on it (grilled chicken breasts, sauteed crab meat, steak, etc), but there are also a ton of skillet dishes we came up with too. My personal favorite is spaghetti squash with tomato sauce and a few turkey meatballs; it's got all the flavors and textures of pasta while still being all veggies.

Angie, DH and I did this diet together, and we both weigh ourselves daily. On previous diets, I had stuck to the once-a-week rule, but I prefer daily weighing now because it allows me to make minor adjustments as needed and keeps me focused. Like you said with Greg, it's sort of a scientific process for us, and we don't attach emotional significance to the number. So if it's up, I know to dial it back for a day (or get in more exercise, because that's usually where I am slacking off) until it rights itself again. DH is done dieting now and has moved onto the maintenance phase, and he's continuing to do daily weighing. I know I will too.

Wow, there are so many interesting things to comment on in this thread…( I know I already have, but here are some more)

1. Angie – Greg not liking fruit. Me too!

I am a fairly picky eater, and this does have its advantages; I don’t like potato chips or any of those salty snacks ( cheezles, twisties, shapes etc), “fries” in the McDonalds sense, beer, most lollies (candy), anything with sultanas in it and most biscuits (ie. cookies) Also although I like cream and cheese, I can’t tolerate too much of it.

On the downside I don’t like fruit very much at all. All I eat is some tinned or cooked fruit and strawberries (actually I love raspberries, but they are an expensive treat in Aus) and a few types of dried fruit.
And, unlike Greg, I don’t like veggies that much either, although I do eat more of those. Not very keen on salad either. Shiny’s 9 serves a day would be just too much for me. I try to do the 2 fruit and 5 veg that is recommended by the Aussie health department, but I don’t honestly achieve that every day.

I feel in deference to my late father, that I should point out that I had extremely good eating examples growing up; my dad used to lament “how could a daughter of mine….” Everyone else in my family likes fruit and, thank goodness, so do all my children.

It is so sweet that you make Greg’s lunch. My DH actually works v close, so is home for lunch with us most days, which is lovely. But about once a week he abandons us an goes to McDonalds (where he always get a healthychoice, he insists) People always think DH is very skinny, which annoys me a bit as he has put on about 10kg since we met and 16kg since we married (he was very skinny then, 58kg at 6”1) But now our BMI is almost the same, - but he has the height.

I can resonate with the daily weighin being “scientific and interesting” for men. I remember my dad making graphs on Excel!

2. Beans etc

I like pulse and legumes too; we particularly eat chickpeas, lentils and split peas a lot (oh, and tinned baked beans ). I have to say that having no fat with them, like your daughter must, Khris, sounds hard. – I love to add a little dollop of say, parmesan pressed olive oil to my chickpea and pasta soup

3. Brianna
I could relate to what you were saying about brown rice etc! I made a resolution at the beginning of the year that we would eat brown rice and pasta at least half of the time we ate rice or pasta and it has been quite difficult to get this going down with my family. Some recipes were really nice, but they tended to include lots of oil. I haven’t given up on this goal completely, as I don’t hate them but it is hard. Fortunately I am happy to eat wholemeal bread but…
The free food thing lurks. Most weeks we get some discards from a bakery and so eat more white bread (and cheesy loaves) than we would otherwise. I have just decided to live with that amount of white bread and not use it as an excuse to eat 8 slice a day.

We also keep chooks and so get lots of eggs. When they were laying well I tried to have 2 egg based dinners a week. Giving the children’s food scraps to the chooks is very therapeutic, because I DON” insist the kids “polish their plate” the way I had too (even now, you should see how clean my plate is after a meal, not a grain of rice left, not a teaspoon of sauce!) but I do hate wasting food. So this way, it isn’t wasted.

4. Shiny

I had a quick look over at dietician.com and found that it classified me as an “apple” which surprised me a bit. Mind you the FAQ said not to worry too much if your BMI is ok and you have slim hips, but still…

Also – I love rice with Eggs! Love it scrambled in, but also fried, on top of (ever since having it for breakfast at a street stall in Thailand in the 80’s)

5. Michel Pollan

I did a quick google search and just wanted to pick up on one thing.. I noticed he advocated butter over margarine.

My sister has been very strong on this for a while and is trying to convince me, but I am not yet persuaded - the main issue being that since I like butter a LOT more I think I would eat more of it. Any of you have opinions on this matter?

I think that is enough – thanks for reading this novel

And well done all of you who have had such massive weightlosses. I can’t imagine how hard you must have worked

I've been wanting to post to this thread when I had more than a few minutes to spare, but that never seems to happen! So I'm going to give you all a quick intro into my weight struggles and share a favorite recipe.

I've always been overweight, as long as I can remember. Even in my pictures as a toddler I have thunder thighs, LOL! I can count on my fingers the number of years I have been happy with, not really weight, but how I fit into the clothes the way I wanted to. My goals have never been unreasonable. I do not want to be thinner than where my body can comfortably settle in even with a few pounds up or down.

4 years ago I found myself out of a bad relationship and wanted to do something different with my life, get out of the rut I was in. Next thing I know, I was training for the Marine Corps Marathon with a very supportive and athletic group of people. During the 4-5 months of training, I lost 2 dress sizes. Not more than 4-5 lbs of weight. But I was working muscles I had never worked and I started looking sleeker, toner and generally more compact. I did not change how I was eating, in fact I was eating more than usual. Then again, I have always been good about what I eat. An year later I met my husband who is a BIG foodie. For the longest time I resisted his eating habits but slowly started assimilating them over time. In about 2 years I found myself 10 lbs heavier. On a shorty like me (5'1") that is a lot.

Then, just before the wedding I worked out diligently for 4 months, watched my calorie count, went easy on carbs, lost the 10 lbs and looked and felt great. Now 2 years, very little exercise and slackened eating habits later, the 10 lbs have crept back. I want to make a change for good this time. I am tired of the weight swings. I want to eat absolutely clean, workout everyday and make a lifestyle out of it. We're talking about having kids sooner rather than later and I want to be fit when that happens. Before and after.

I have started going to the gym every morning so I will not have an excuse not to go after work (had to work late, am exhausted etc). I've started menu planning and timing my meals, drinking my 8 cups of water and keeping track of calories (I try to keep at around 1300 and sometimes try calorie zig-zagging during the week with the highest calories consumed on the weekends). And I am absolutely thrilled we are all here to support ourselves. Oh, BTW I never did mention: I am 140 lbs at a size 10.

You are all so very inspiring, especially to manage everything while juggling work and family. Congratulations on all that you have achieved so far and more power to you for where you want to go from here!

My favorite recipes:

Creamy Italian White Bean Soup:

Ingredients:
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
1 onion, chopped
1 stalk celery, chopped
1 clove garlic, minced
2 (16 ounce) cans white kidney beans, rinsed and drained
1 (14 ounce) can chicken broth
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/8 teaspoon dried thyme
2 cups water
1 bunch fresh spinach, rinsed and thinly sliced
1 tablespoon lemon juice

Directions:
In a large saucepan, heat oil. Cook onion and celery in oil for 5 to 8 minutes, or until tender. Add garlic, and cook for 30 seconds, continually stirring. Stir in beans, chicken broth, pepper, thyme and 2 cups water. Bring to a boil, reduce heat, and then simmer for 15 minutes.
With slotted spoon, remove 2 cups of the bean and vegetable mixture from soup and set aside.
In blender at low speed, blend remaining soup in small batches until smooth, (it helps to remove the center piece of the blender lid to allow steam to escape.) Once blended pour soup back into stock pot and stir in reserved beans.
Bring to a boil, occasionally stirring. Stir in spinach and cook 1 minute or until spinach is wilted. Stir in lemon juice and remove from heat and serve with fresh grated Parmesan cheese on top.

Nutritional Information
Servings Per Recipe: 4
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 248
Total Fat: 5.5g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium: 957mg
Total Carbs: 37.8g
Dietary Fiber: 11.7g
Protein: 12.3g

Lentil Pancake(s) (or Adai as it is called in India)

Ingredients:
1 cup Brown lentil sprouts
1 cup mung bean sprouts (I don't think the Chinese bean sprouts would work for this recipe)
1 inch ginger, peeled and chopped
3 serrano chilies or 3 dried red chilies
1/2 cup scallions, chopped (even shallots or onions will do)
1/2 cup spinach or other greens, finely minced (optional- add if you want more nutrition)
2 Tbsp cilantro, finely minced (optional)
1 tsp salt or more to taste

Directions:
Grind sprouts with ginger and chilies into a coarse, thick batter.
Spread a ladleful of batter, thickly on a medium hot griddle. Add a tsp of oil around the pancake.
Cook for about a minute on each side. The adai should be a rich, reddish brown.

The mung beans pack a good punch of protein. I like to eat chicken curry with these pancakes. They taste good all by themselves too.

A favorite snack of mine that is both healthy and satisfying (esp when you are craving something crispy and savory)

Roasted Chickpeas

Ingredients:
1 15.5 oz can chickpeas, rinsed and drained;
2 tbsp olive oil;
salt to taste.

Directions:
Preheat oven to 450.
Mix ingredients together in shallow baking pan.
Bake for 20 minutes until golden brown, stirring occasionally.
When finished, remove from oven and allow to cool.
Eat at room temperature.

I like my roasted chickpeas with ground red pepper, garlic & onion powder. Really gives them a kick! I tend to make these in small batches as they tend get a little chewy in a few days.

Thats it for now!

Thanks for sharing your story, Niva. I m going to try the chickpeas- maybe dd would like that.

Anne- I do use real buttr raher than margarine, but we use it very sparingly.

Because of dd's dietay restrictions, we really can't eat out anymore. It's hard on me, but it's just a fact of life for us these days. (As is bringing food when we go anywhere)

I feel like I ate a ton yesterday, but my weight is down a bit this morning so I think this is the right track. I'm going to try and keep close tabs on it and keep at the high end of my range for the next week. I guess that I've been really lucky- in 40 pounds and 9 months, I have avoided a plateau.