It's still hot here--we had temps in the high 90s plus the smoke from the fires but we had a few cool day mixed in that had me thinking about boots. I almost bought a shorter pair of Docs and then remembered how long it took me to break in my other ones. The office is not what it was and I'm considering some fun boots--in white or black. I'm not going to make an investment purchase but think these would be fun with crops and dresses. The white ones are not optic white which might make them easier to wear? What do you think? My white sneakers were a work horse--they are too trashed for work now but maybe these will work for winter?