Yep, I looked at MOA when we were there last weekend (Nordstrom's - hee hee my kids called it Nerdstop, Macy's, and Bloomie's) - none had them so I was starting to think they didn't exist. Then, I rememberd trying on the Brighton's I bought & they had one there. I had asked the sales clerk at the time but she didn't know where it came from. So, I'm thinking they have to exist?! Kari, I actually have a bit wider calves actually but I get (cringe cringe) spider veins a small version of varicose & I've heard that the knee high one's are a contributing factor to that so wanted to stay away (if that's true anyway). I think I've just gotten used to the short one's with my other shoes over the years since hearing that. I will try Von Maur this weekend & see if they have anything in the store as well. Just thought some of the more seasoned shoppers & fashionista's on here might know! Thanks!