Thanks so much for all these suggestions and keep them coming!

StagFash, the Adidas isn't in Canada (that I can find).

Kerry, i looked at the Lands End but yeah...i think you are right....not super stylish.

The Helly Hansen might be the sister of Gaylene's. But it has to be longer or it's useless to me.

Living in a place that values no light pollution, it is very dark out, I think you need a white coat, but the right one. Lots of bike riders and pedestrians here too and many wear black and get hit by cars. Often the dog has a reflective collar so it is seen first. Why do people wear dark colors and walk or run in the street at night?!

Why do people wear dark colors and walk or run in the street at night?!

Joy, it's an excellent question. I think sometimes they are just oblivious to how difficult they are to see. If you don't drive, you aren't aware of how poor the visibility can be. And sometimes black or navy is all they can find in the stores, LOL!

Living in a suburb it's also worse because not all the streets have sidewalks. Where I lived in Ontario there were sidewalks almost everywhere I walked. So some of it is city design....

Ha, GREAT question, Joy! I still drive at night and was dying to ask a runner exactly that question when my lights picked him up running down the centre of a dark, narrow, twisting road on a rainy night. He was dressed entirely in dark clothing and his only concession to the pitch blackness was his headlamp. The feeble light it emitted was barely enough for him to see his surroundings, much less make him visible to drivers. I checked the papers for the next couple of morning just to see if there had been an another accident.


Suz, I think HH makes a fleece lined version of my raincoat. I have a similar fleece-lined raincoat but find it much too warm for our winters on the Island. My sister wears her fleece-lined raincoat during the winter months when she and her partner are in Northern Scotland. It’s kept her warm and dry in some pretty fierce gales. The combination of a wind proof, water-resistant outer shell, a fleece lining, a well-fitting hood, and drawstrings at the wrists and waists makes for a pretty warm walking combination.

I guess my skiing background makes me wonder about the performance of puffers in wet, stormy weather. Some puffers claim to be water resistant, but those quilted seams make for a lot of potential water entry points during a full-on rain and wind event. My past experience is that dampness (external or internal) is what chills me—and once I’m chilled, only a hot bath warms me up.

Good luck on your search!

Looks like HH does a lot of white coats! I agree with Gaylene that a white shell, insulated or not, makes a lot of sense for a damp and windy coastal climate. Then you could layer any puffer you like underneath. Synthetic insulation like Primaloft is designed to retain its loft better in wet conditions than down, but a puffer jacket on its own doesn’t block the rain from getting through for very long, unless it has a waterproof or water resistant outer with a solid (not quilted) face.

I absolutely do not need a white coat because it would stay white for all of two seconds, but I’m having a lot of fun browsing for you, Suz! I wonder if any of these are available in Canada?

https://www.hellyhansen.com/en.....lor=291445

https://www.hellyhansen.com/en.....lor=314605

https://www.hellyhansen.com/en.....lor=314605

https://www.hellyhansen.com/en.....lor=314605

https://www.hellyhansen.com/en.....lor=314605

LaPed I really like those! Vancouver has a big HH store. Stay tuned. I’m going to check it out!!

I’m going to be an outlier on white for visibility! It works if you live in a place that doesn’t get snow, but if you live in a snowy place all bets are off regarding visibility - day or night! I suspect you would be okay on the island…

No need to be an outlier, Carla; I totally agree with you! Wearing a white ski suit on a ski slope turns you into a mogul if you fall down! Colorful ski wear can save your life if you ski outside marked trails.


Even after eight years, I’m still taken aback by the “blackout” effect of the combination of rain, mist, heavy forest, and winding roads if you are driving outside our city core at night. Those reflector harnesses and vests are essentials if you are walking at night on the Island. The contrast of a white coat against the black/dark green really helps as well.

NO fear of that here, Carla. As Gaylene says, until you've lived out on the coast, you cannot really take in just how dark the dark is. We do get some snow here (and heaven only knows how much more or less with climate chaos) but that is only for about a week or two a year at most, and I have a great parka for those conditions! I need one for the wet and dark, not for the snow.