Star, thank you for the answer! You too find warm colors to be flattering, that is reassuring , I was completely off not knowing if warm or cool colors are better. I always thought about myself as winter, by description, but looking at the provided examples often thought I look more like spring but with dark hair , then it all got even more confusing when I saw not 4, but 12 or 16 season systems, where some summer tones looks good too.
I like both gold and silver and wear both, also pink gold.
I used to look great in optic white, and I still like it best in te mirror but not on photos. Slightly off white but on the cooler side is more forgiving on camera. Cream with a yellow hint suck all the life out of me.

Kkards, I am afraid I am a little lost right now. I am going through a major life change - changing location, lifestyle, finances, my daughters are just hitting teenage years (11 and 14), I guess I am searching for what feels like me

Angie, thank you so much !!!
Out of this exercise I feel navy is my best color too. I just thought funny how navy and ruby red are my pyjama colors, meaning they are flattering even without makeup, done hair, any accessories - doing all the work by themselves.
I am reading all about cool winter.
I think I will concentrate on getting basics in navy, and light stone mostly, then basics in dark cool brown if I find them, and very dark eggplant (realistically this will probably be the hardest color to find).
And try to mix what I have with these. Then see to expand the colors into cool bright side.

Jaime, oh thank you so much for bone structure comment, it is so nice to hear ! I start to see first evidence of my face heading south, hopefully it will hang on on my bone structure just a little longer. But well… this is not the most unpleasant thing that can happen with aging , so I won’t complaint

After reading all your responses I am sure you are a cool winter or spring.  Emphasis on cool.  When you say cream with a hint of yellow sucks the life out of you that is telling.  I too have a pinky skin that burns fairly easily.  My difference is I have blue eyes.  I too like saturated colours and not murky ones (on me).  So in a nutshell you are not strictly cool and can wear some warm colours/tones too.  Your choices going forward sound spot on.   Do look at cool brights later as I think these really make you glow.

Hi Val! I’m so, so sorry to just reply. My entire family has been ravaged by the flu. It’s not healing up fast either. Going on a week and just miserable. I will come back and reply when I have more energy. Though Angie def has you covered!

As for palettes a mix of warm and cool: in some systems those *do* exist. Sci/Art systems have 8 neutral seasons that have warmer and cooler variations in each. The palettes still have boundaries but they are far more nuanced than 4 season systems.

Also, Caygill system does a mix of warm and cool unless the person is extremely warm/cool and cannot tolerate the opposite temperature. Elea Blake has moved away from 12 season Sci/Art. (Darren was originally trained by Sci/Art founder Kathy Kalisz.) They now drape customers to find their best shades in each color family. Such an approach leans more Caygill in my opinion.

I love Elea Blake makeup. I’ve had terrific success with their foundations. And they’ve made me a custom bronzer twice—and each time it’s been stellar! (My skin tone is unusual and challenging to match, and my overtones changed drastically last year after healing from major health issues—so they had to rework my bronzer from scratch.)

Though Elea Blake only drapes in person, I’ve had excellent success with their customer service via FB messenger. You might want to send them the photos of your very best drapes and ask if they will recommend some of their products.

Losing steam now… will try to come back when I’m in land of living again. xo

Well, I am no expert, because I only vaguely know about the seasons. But I do generally know about color families. It looks like you can still definitely do black and grey. But with colors, it looks like earthy jewel tones are best, as opposed to brights. Like olive, hunter green, peacock blue, mustard, mulberry, stuff like that.