Yes, Viva, they are not like sweatshirt material. They are closer to a chino fabric. The fabric does have some heft to it, so if feels pretty substantial. I think I looked and they are mainly cotton with some small amount of tencel. They are not as casual as a sweats, but they do have a pretty casual vibe by themselves. I think the rest of the outfit can dress it up or not.

Really cute! And in petites!

I think my earlier might have been incoherent. I meant these pants would be a good substitute for the pants I ordered from REI.

Ha. Are you still waiting on the REI order?

Theoretically, they should be delivered today.

Hopefully they will work out. I’ve had a shoe order from DSW that’s showed three different dates for delivery. Of course, it keeps pushing back. So I understand theoretically.