These are some great artistic outfits! I am especially drawn to the first one - love SR colors and stripes, and the colorful laces look great! But the other two combinations are equally good.
As to the PJ trousers as “real” trousers - I do not normally care for labels. The wearer decides what the trousers are. I have a pair of actual pyjama trousers in black viscose that I wear as “real” trousers - both outdoors and indoors. And some “real” trousers I wear only for lounging…
I am nodding along with your comments about wearing outdoor outfits indoors - i.e. dressing for real when at home - that is an area I would like to work on. WFH - I want to dress. I am improving, but far from getting there.

Approprio, FWIW - these are the actual pyjama trousers here worn as “real” trousers with a jacket, a silk scarf, a clutch … he, he. Picture from 2018.

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I remember you and your funky clothes from when I was on the site before. I seem to come back periodically when my body either gains or loses weight to get inspiration to dress my new body. I have kind of come to the conclusion that only we really notice our loses and gains and anybody can dress in a way that fundamentally expresses who they are. Great outfits and you continue to look very funky. In regard to Pyjama pants, if it works, it works and if nobody knows, what difference does it make. I have some singlets that had sleeping singlets on them but I still wear them with my dress pants.

Lynn67: i know! And science proves it: horizontal stripes are more flattering. Thanks for the kind words. Grumpy Pablo is pleased.

Katerina: right! I think I’m struggling with the psychology of indoors/outdoors, rather than the garments themselves. Something to do with the phenomenon of enclothed cognition, perhaps. I’m resisting the temptation to dress up too much while I try to nail the formula, and I must say it’s paying off already, I’m already more mindful indoors, and better at leaving the house at a moment’s notice.

Your PJ’s look amazing, by the way. Lovely belt.

Sally: I’m not sure I could tell the difference with any singlets. And I’ve certainly slept in some of my t-shirts…

Thanks once again everyone for the warm welcome back. Much appreciated, particularly when I feel like such a mess.

Re: stripes and flattery — I’m convinced that the flattery aspect of stripes has a lot to do with contrast, thickness/thinness of stripe, and placement. To me, your stripes work so well because they are low contrast, a moderate thickness that doesn’t overwhelm or look too dainty, and are evenly distributed all over the garment.

I’m reminded of the tiered, striped Bailey44 dress from years ago that spawned a dozen or more knockoffs —‘I had it in a plum color and wore it for years, until I had to admit to myself that I had “outgrown” it (bought when I was wearing a size 6-8, not so fab on a size 10). I was super skeptical of the all over stripes at the time, but it really worked.

The concept of 'pyjamas' is, I'm learning, rather culturally dependent. When we first moved to the UK, people would make fun of my mother for wearing 'pyjamas' outside because she was wearing shalwar kameez. A decade later though, dresses over trousers became a 'trend', ugh lol...

Anyway, my point is that it really depends on how you *feel* in clothing as to whether it counts as PJ's or not. I wear elasticated waistbands to fit over both my waist & hips when I'm in a rush to get out of the house lol. And whilst I feel comfy in them, I wouldn't go to sleep in them. But those linen wide legged pants that are popular over the summer? *Those* feel like pajamas to me, because of the wrinkled & slightly sheer look. My actual pyjamas, however, are probably more than what most folk here would wear for loungewear (I posted it in the forum during COVID WFH - a long cardigan, elasticated cuffed trousers, thin top & a scarf).

If you're still worried, pair the trousers with slightly more dressed up accessories (like patent brogues or a metallic bag).

Janet, it’s an interesting effect. I think the key with the SR dress is colour variations. Dark plum around the waist, blush and yellow over the hips. It creates a subtle hourglass effect. I remember those Bailey dresses. Popular because they were so flattering, no doubt.


Zaeobi, exactly! It’s all in the mind. I’ve noticed that simply putting together a well proportioned outfit can be enough. For instance, yesterday I went out in a pair of black joggers with a white stripe, which easily pass as trendy streetwear around here, with black, navy and citron layers and a color block shopper. All very casual, with contrast and proportions doing the heavy lifting. I probably looked more like a tourist than the tourists though. I like your ideas for adding a bit more polish.

As for the shalwar kameez, good grief aren’t British people rude! How dare they! But I remember that dress over pants trend being specifically influenced by Asian conventions. It felt very new at the time, and now it’s part of the lexicon.

Scored more swag for my indoors/outdoors concept:
https://www.uniqlo.com/eu/en_H.....443246_col

These are great for bringing fleeces and bomber jackets into the formula. And they look fantastic oversized.

Thanks again everyone. What an incredibly useful thread this has been!