DO IT! Challenge him.

Awaiting your updates with interest!

"Color Me Shocked" - a rom-com coming soon! Well, this is exciting news, Anna... keep us posted. Could be worthwhile - but do you want to see HIM again?

Just caught up here (and just found the OT category!) and I'm glad if you'll be seeing him again to further get to know him. You've gotten excellent views on what to make/not make of the first date. Hopefully, you'll see a bit more of the 'real' him 2nd time around. Although he still might act weird around an art museum because he has no idea HOW to be around an art museum.

Gah! The early dates can be SO awkward :-\ Getting to know the 'real' someone usually takes time . . .

As to what he wore - some guys are just clueless. If what he wore was clean, that may be all he's up to - without female guidance.

AG, I'm with Angie. Aside from the annoying bits, was there any chemistry? Did you feel like he respected your opinions even though he disagreed? Or did he just dismiss them? An interesting debate is fun, but being shut down isn't so much. I dated my now-husband at first because I was so bored and lonely. I really didn't even like him that much. But we had a lot of chemistry, plus he laughed at all my jokes (!) and now we've been together for 20 years. So, you never know.

Ha! I think that could be an interesting way to see how important or not your art differences are. Then you can go flip burgers or hunt in the wild to sustain yourselves lol!

If he changes plans or puts down your opinions *again* I wouldnt waste any more time on him....of course he wants to see you Just make sure *he* is worthy of it!

Very interesting indeed!

Do you like him enough to spend another few hours out with him? I know the first date didn't go quite as well as you'd have liked, but how do you feel now? About going out with him again, I mean?

Meanwhile, I don't see anything wrong with suggesting the Seattle Art Museum

(giggling here....)

No, but in all seriousness - why not? Go for coffee, go to the art museum, maybe lunch after or dinner or what have you - depending on time of day.

Very curious as to what happens next - hope things go well. Oh, and I'm *not* shocked that it turns out he'd like to go out with you again.

I just found this thread! I'm fascinated by this dude and agree with those who ask about the chemistry--is there any at all? If yes, I love the idea of going to the museum with him! See what happens...Maybe he will further reveal himself as an impossible-to-deal-with kind of guy, or maybe he will loosen up and be interesting.

I can't wait to hear if you give him a second chance and how it goes.

I'm the queen of rationalizing, so here goes. Does he dislike art? or is his aesthetic about function? Two very different ideas to me. Someone who can't appreciate beauty would trouble me. Someone who has a different opinion about the ingredients of beauty would be another thing entirely. I'm curious which camp he's in.

I have a feeling that his comments about art are really comments on some issues he's working through with himself. Coming out of a divorce, living with parents (even if not currently) he's probably working through some self worth junk. His need to be about form over function, his need to be a provider, his need to be able to survive in the woods. I'm not sure if that pov makes him more or less appealing in my eyes.

Instead of challenging him to the art museum, what about either a hike to some beautiful natural spot? See if he can appreciate the beauty or if he just talks about his heart rate and air quality. Or some type of music event. I notice music is the one type of art that even those who are turned off by "art" are still drawn to. Can he be moved by music?

good luck with whatever you decide!

Sylvie said: "However, asking if Kandinsky can survive in the woods or if the opera singer can flip burgers comes off as dismissive and disrespectful of their respective artistic talents. It comes across as judgmental and suggests that he has a very narrow view of what he considers worthwhile."

really. I have to say that disagreeing respectfully and thoughtfully is one thing, but off the wall is something else. Like what, flipping burgers is some amazing life skill everyone should have or at least respect intensely? FWIW, my husband and i are VERY opposite in many views and in personality and certain interests. But we do have many values in common (love and respect for nature and animals, a love of diversity in people and locations, for example).

anyways, my opinion is that if you feel like asking the forum if you should date him again, there's your answer. And i'm not surprised he called you back - sounds like you've got him all riled up! best of luck and have fun! steph

Could it be that his viewpoints were meant to be sarcastic, even funny responses to your questions? I agree with someone else who thought he was showing off.

I don't know if this guy is the one or not. But you could have a lot of fun finding out!

My advice: date other men, while still dating him. Only sleep with him or any man if he becomes exclusive with you. Finally, let the him pursue you, not the other way around. Maybe this sounds old-fashioned or like "games" but I have found it to be true.

+1 to CocoLion -- all of it!

Good luck!!