I wonder if this whole thing will initiate a push for universal, single-payer healthcare and a better safety net. I'm privileged not to need it, but the number of people laid off, seeking unemployment and worried about health insurance is boggling right now-people who probably thought they didn't have to worry. A situation like this could be a game changer socially and politically.

It is really hard to predict I agree........and I can see things going a few different ways...

Such as:

Fashion
1) People choosing smaller local fashion options OR
2) A move to online platforms and less storefronts

International Relations
1) People becoming more globally aware and interconnected OR
2) People retreating into their nations and countries and being less tolerant of different perspectives

Travel and Hospitality
1) People valuing travel and eating out even more OR
2) People feeling nervousness about travel and crowds and choosing smaller closer to home options

I don't know which way it will swing, some depends on own age, personality and pushes by government, local and national. I can see among my family people reacting in quite different ways to the same information. And the truth is it won't be one or the other. And for many people eating out and buying clothes will be bottom of their priority list given job losses and tight business times.

I must say, Echo, I don’t see it getting traction. Not for at least two more presidents at least, of any persuasion. Huge inertia there. People are afraid to lose what they have. It’s not just an administrative change...

I wish for some of the mentioned changes like universal, single-payer health care, countries and governments working together, people working less in big offices and more from home.
And I don't want to see some other possible future changes like retail switching to only on-line shopping ( where would I work then?..), people wearing masks and gloves everywhere, restaurants doing only take outs, cinema closing...
I hope for return of some normality to our lives after some months of isolation when all you can read is abundance of scare news and horrible stories.

. I love seeing people working together to make the community work together. I hate to see the bad actors of the world who helped to facilitate this thing happen, and those that are profitting from it. And I hate the loss of my liberty, perhaps forever. I worry about the terrorists of the world who now see just how much havoc they can cause...without firing a bomb, or hi-jacking a plane....the new terrorist has been born. Sorry to throw water on all of the good that is happening, but somebody better see the bad that is coming too.... It really frightens and depresses me....

Yep, SW Ann ! Bio Terrorism is alive and well. This isn’t the first time, and won’t be the last ..We lose a bit of ourselves/rights each time!

It’s become much more sophisticated in the 20th century...from poisoning wells during the civil war !

I wonder how popular materials from public libraries, second hand stores, thrifting, etc. will be in the aftermath, especially if a vaccine isn’t available for awhile. Those of us who were not germaphobes, may be going down that path....ahem.

Maybe someone will invent a cheap “sanitizer”, sort of like a microwave to get us over the hump...

Some UV light sanitizers may work the way you are meaning...but I am not an authority on that...at all...

I imagine my handwashing that is verging on OCD will continue; I hope my sudden onset of social anxiety does not

As for shopping, I feel a bit disgusted at my volume of clothing, mostly because I keep rotating between the same 4 or 5 things and the rest feels so wasteful... especially shoes! I need to make myself wear other things.

I feel for the retailers and small restaurants who will likely have to shutter.

Yes there will be good and bad, and lots of pain for many. It is overwhelming.

I think we will all be more nervous about germs.

I think there are simple steps that can be taken re stuff (leaving it for X days, laundering clothes etc). I hope libraries and second hand can thrive again. But I am nervous about group gatherings such as sports and concerts and theatre and religious group gatherings. Some or all of these are so important to many of us and something I cherish.

I would love to see the US get a better public health system. It is so wonderful to have in this situation and I am incredibly grateful for ours. Canada has a pretty good one I believe?
I cannot understand the resistance to it in the US.
And I would love to see the back of all the nail salons!

Public health coverage in the US would be great. I'm with you, Jenni.

YES, Sal - concerts and sport events seem scary now. And, I would be heartbroken to lose library access

Jenni, believe me, The majority of people in the US wish we had a better system too. It’s downright infuriating. This pandemic is highlighting all of the ways that our system is failing us. Things have to change.

Very interesting to read all of your responses. As one of the hardest hit segments from the pandemic, I am going to share some information. Warning: do not read further if you only want to read and think about positive things right now.

As the owner of 2 small restaurants, both of them closed, this is the biggest challenge of my life. Our local population is small and 25% live at or below the poverty line, while another 50% are retirees on fixed incomes. What has kept us in business is tourism, to Yosemite National Park. The park is closed, if it re-opens, we will re-open for takeout. But right now takeout for our small population is a money losing proposition. I have applied for the PPP loan and an EIDL ... it's crickets. I was supposed to get a $10K advance on the EIDL in 72 hours, which should have been April 2. Today is April 10. At this point it's a waiting game. If I even get a form email from someone, it can turn around my entire day as I feel some hope. I check my email every hour, and take every call that comes in, although most calls are still sales pitches, now I have to politely decline because I feel bad about hanging up.

The PPP is a broad program. If a business is under 500 employees, they can apply. So a grocery store whose sales are up 50% can apply, and get 2.5 months of free payroll because it is no problem for them to retain (actually exceed) their 2019 payroll count. The government has picked winners and losers. Unintentionally I hope. So the more successful the business, the more likely that the loans will be fully forgiven. My accountant's estimate is that I will get 10% of the loan forgiven, if I get it.

Prior to the pandemic, 50% of the food dollar in California was spent at restaurants. That has dropped dramatically, and where there are sales it is fast food drive thrus. Starbucks business was down 70% compared to last year, but they had 2.5Bil in cash and were able to access another 3.5Bil in loans. With 15K stores, that means they need an additional $400K per store to survive the pandemic. And they are doing it without government help. I am impressed. I am asking for $72K, I doubt that will be enough, even if I get it. Who knows if I will be in business in 6 or 12 months. I certainly hope so. I have poured all of my profits into remodeling -- the building was in dire need and it was a lease requirement to do it in the first 16 months of my lease.

I am hoping for one thing: that people will see the benefit of visiting parks again. Our international travel numbers will be devastated, probably down 90% this year but less than that in 2021. But maybe regional and US visitors will want to get out and travel again, in the safety of their own cars?

I feel airlines and manufacturers have a huge public awareness task. Apparently, in newer planes, the air is filtered so frequently that the air quality is safer than office buildings and on par with hospitals. So the challenge will be to communicate safety and affordability.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/air-.....ight-54164

One thing for sure, Mother Nature is loving this drop in travel. Apparently the drop in pollution can be seen from space.

Businesses that will survive or thrive:
Banking
Grocery
Liquor
Insurance
Construction
Funeral
Health Care
TV entertainment, news and broadcasting
Tech
Consumer household products especially cleaning products
Sink makers - I predict sinks being installed in stores entrances

Pharmaceuticals -- especially those treating diabetes and heart disease, chronic conditions requiring daily regimes. Due to more sedentary population.

Rough road ahead, in addition to restaurants:
Retail clothing
Department stores
Movies

Gyms

Non Profits
Some tech (Toast, who make POS systems for independent restaurants, laid off 50% of its staff)
Live entertainment
Trade shows
Business travel (airlines, hotels, restaurants catering to them)
Consumer travel (airlines, hotels, restaurants catering to them)
Commercial real estate
Beauty (hair and nail) salons? I'm not sure ... they could rebound!)

Denise, your observations are in line with mine.

Also a rough road ahead for the energy (oil and gas) industry.

I would so love to do some travel right now. I’ve been following a Facebook group of national park photos and videos, and it’s making me simultaneously happy to have seen so many of those places in person and also sad that I can’t pack up and go now.

Those loans are problematic in so many ways. My husband has looked into it, with the help of his CPA, and it’s not easy, nor is it a good solution for many business owners. To get loan forgiveness, having to maintain a payroll on a certain level is just not feasible for many small businesses. Plus this solution completely leaves out all the workers who have straight up been furloughed or let go, and all the freelancers who have no more work. It just sucks all around. I know of a few people who have booming businesses at the moment, and I am happy for them, but most of us are not doing well, and the reality is, it’s not going to get easier any time soon.

In advance, let me apologize to Sal for the hijack. This is really US specific info...

I agree Janet, the fact that I cannot use the funds to pay contractors and freelancer's wages really hurts me. For example, I could use the downtime to do maintenance. I guess I could look into putting them on W2s. Personally I'm really stuck -- I only have schedule K income, no W2s, so I can't get unemployment. So I am waiting for these programs to come through but I shouldn't count on it.

If I were you I would go ahead and apply, sadly I am sure your art business is going to suffer. I did the documentation myself, but that might have been a mistake. I heard of one restaurant in my county that's getting the PPP loan and they used an accountant to apply. Apparently their funds are coming on April 20.

I recommend applying both for the EIDL and the PPP, it doesn't hurt to try. The PPP has a really low interest rate on the unforgiven amount, it's 1%. The EIDL is up to 4%. Or you could go the home equity route, that's always how I've financed my businesses but due to issues with my mother's estate my HELOC was cancelled a few weeks ago. (Banks - argh!- love them, hate them, can't live without them.)

Yes sadly the energy sector will suffer also, which is a huge employer and people make good wages at it. Even more emphasis will be put on making plastics to compensate now

Double check the unemployment. I was listening to something on the radio where they said a guy who runs a tours company would qualify. Sole proprietors and so forth... I know you said schedule k, but being a smaller business...

Thanks for chiming in Denise, Janet and Rachy.

I am sad to hear about the stress this is putting you under - it did come along so quickly with such massive effect. Denise, I hope you can get the loans sorted.

For our business we have applied for a payroll subsidy to cover wages for up to three months. I was touched that it arrived in two days - I actually cried. It covers about 40% of our payroll cost. We are expecting a slowdown and that clients will be slow to pay their bills. This takes some of the pressure off.

Our business is not the worst affected but we are paying people to be at home not working, and we have some working from home. The aim of the subsidy is that you continue to employ staff and pay them - we have cut wages to 80% and they are working up to 80%. A few are topping up to 100% with paid leave. It is not a perfect solution but after a week of mulling all options this was the best one. We may be audited and may have to pay back some of the subsidy depending on revenue. It is a high trust model.

I mostly agree with your picks re industries Denise - for me the things I am really missing are
- freedom of choice
- activities with friends and family - walking, the gym, social gatherings in and out

I hope to continue to travel, go to events and concerts. I think in the short term the travel will be NZ based as our borders are shut down.

A big hug from me to you all. It is tough times.