Maya, I followed the Macy's size chart which does seem to be accurate. I got the 4p in the Levi's 512, and the 2p in the Ralph Lauren Nolita's. Both fit about the same on me - same rise (not quite 10 inches, maybe 9? I tried them on several weeks ago-). Both need hemming. Both are similar dark wash rinse and pocket size/placement.

I don't need both - I just want one pair, so it's hard to choose. I keep meaning to post pics for the group to weigh in, but ultimately I think they are so similar, it'll boil down to how they wear and which stretches out the least. I have had better luck with RL usually.... BUT the material for this pair seems stretchier which makes me wary.

I just ordered the BR clams (Angie's first link), using a rewards coupon so they were only $49. When I get those, I will take photos and let everyone help me decide which of the three to keep!

DO try either the Levi's or the RL... I think you will like the rise on either.

P.s. I am still wondering if buying another pair of these UO skinnies and cropping them off at the knee may be a better way to go. I have washed - and machine dried - the UO's 3x's now, and they keep shrinking - in a good way. I don't need to hem them now because they are "perfect scrunchable" length. Even though they keep shrinking, they still fit.

Thanks Shiny. I think the 512's look perfect, though I'll probably need to hem them too. I'll wait until there is a sale or I get a coupon in the mail or something. This is something I have wanted for a long time so I think it's justified, provided I keep the price way, way down.

Dani-
thanks for the boden code. I just ordered my clams and got the 15% off and free shipping. Can't wait for them to arrive!