Awesome thank you so so much Cindy!!!! I need to get these jeggings I keep hearing about too!!!

Rachylou, you mean not all leggings are the same? Shut my mouth! lol

Molly, did you have any idea what a can of worms you were opening? hahaha

Lol I had no clue Fash! None at all lol

Lots of good discussion here.

Rachy, to April's point - substantial leggings are like pants these days. Dead right. Ten years ago leggings were like hosiery, and that's when they should be worn as an accessory.

mntsofthemoon, I liked your thorough take on the leggings situation. Nicely done.

I have had a lot of discussions about this with my friends and this is what I learned

- it is preferable to show the butt as opposed to the bust. My Brit friends find showing off the bust more attractive.

- folk also believe that shapely butts can be obtained by fitness activity and so it is fine to take pride in and 'show off' the butt

My eye has adjusted to leggings as pants. Mostly! I have a poison eye for leggings that are so thin that they veer into wedgie territory.

I'm retired, an artist/designer & leggings fit my lifestyle. They also are perfect for my figure because I'm lucky enough to have really great legs (I'm 72 & barely 4'11" on a good day) and my butt is ok too. My "signature look" is leggings (heavy enough to not be see-through) usually with a tunic top (to crotch-level) with unusual booties and kimono-type jacket if I need a cover-up. But I'm not in the work force so I have more latitude than most. When I worked (admittedly not since middle 2000's) I wore mostly unmatched suits and dresses (in the legal/administrative field) & that probably hasn't changed too much. So it's dependent on your lifestyle, and also what suits your figure. I see LOTS of women whose thighs & derriere are 2 or 3 times the size of my own and they're wearing leggings to the supermarket. I personally wouldn't if my legs & butt weren't small, but that's their choice & I support everyone having a choice!

"I personally wouldn't if my legs & butt weren't small" lol, what I dislike about my butt right now is that it needs to get bigger--it's too flat! Need to add some muscle, especially on top, to build up its roundness again. But to each her own.

FashIntern, I suspect many people dislike their own butts for one reason or another. Leggings seem to live at some nexus of anxiety people have about that part of their body. Maybe it's because we can't really see it?

I have a flat, wide, low slung butt. My husband likes it (he has NO butt) and I don't care about anyone else. That said, the exercises I do for my back and hip, which I learned at PT, have helped a bit with the flat part of things. I'll always have cellulite, so I'll still treat leggings as leggings, because no one but me and my husband need to see it.

Christine F, that may be true. When I was young, I don't think it occurred to me to worry about that kind of stuff. (When I was in high school, a trainer told me she had exercises to make my thighs thinner--I thought she was nuts) And I probably didn't need to worry. I had a pretty decent little bod, if you like soccer thighs, including a bubble butt. As my weight has fluctuated over the last few years, there have been times that I can put on pants from high school. There is always an awkward poof at the top of my butt, about as big as my hand. If not for that past, I don't think I'd mind the way it looks now.

BTW, the trainer I wrote to, Cori Levkowith, really helped me get back on my feet (literally) when I pulled my back so badly I was crawling around our apt on hands & knees for a few days. She borrows from PT as needed, and has several programs that focus on the low back/butt area that you mention, and started me with exercises from her Booty Burners. It's a silly name, but solid exercises and science. She's at Redefining Strength online. She has tons of followers, and I swear she remembers every single one of us and what's going on with each person.

Right. So now I want to say my butt has gotten soo flat! I blame the desk job. All that sitting has smushed it flat. Ha!

RL, right there with you on the flat butt bench. I can develop muscles in my arms and shins but my butt remains flat as ever. My cross-fit friends tell me I can lose my saddle-bags if I try cross-fit but another contingent tells me they are genetic.

Sadly, I think I’d have to do a fried chicken diet to get my butt back, lol!

For all those who wonder how to add muscle to the rear, there is a genetic component to how we each gain muscle (I have a really hard time adding to muscle around my shoulders), but there's also a widespread condition called "gluteal amnesia" (yes, really! ). Because we sit so much and spend so much time in nonideal postures, our glutes can forget how to fire. It's really common, but also fixable.

Nomad, someone posted that on the Redefining Strength page today, lol. Cori is all about muscle activation/getting people to use their muscles correctly instead of, in this case, letting the legs or lower back take over. She's also super positive and very real. Can't recommend her highly enough. https://redefiningstrength.com/

Nomad, haha . Thanks.

Fashintern, I'll have to check out that link!