I have been reading this thread with great interest. I thought I would be an N but perhaps I am a Classic. I don't seem to fit into any of the categories. People do think I am really tall like maybe 5'10". I am 5'7". Even my friend who is 5'10" thought I was the same height as her.

Sorry I am taking over your thread bettycrocker. (do you like to cook?)

No worries, Style Fan. I think this thread should be for anyone interested in this subject. And yes, I like to cook; love to bake!

I wonder: If no one ever tells you that you look taller or shorter than you are, does that mean you just look your height, or does it simply mean no one has ever said anything?

Just popping back on to say I'm glad you think you've found your true type, bettycrocker.

And thanks to psychedelicate for giving your "diagnosis" of my type. I think you are right -- FG veering to G (why did he do away with that, I wonder?).

In my latest WIW post, two of the outfits that got the most love involved an asymmetrical hemmed sweater. My facial features are not symmetrical at all -- one eye is bigger and rounder than the other, my nose is crooked, etc.

I've tried several clothing and hair styles down thru the years, so it's not like I instinctively know what suits me. I have to say, though, that there seemed to be much more pressure to conform and dress a certain way back in the '70s and '80s when I grew up and then entered the work force. Now that I feel freer to make choices based on what I feel most at ease with, I feel much happier.

Thanks again to Psychedelicate, Sheila, Suz and E for helping me sort out and understand this stuff.

I'm glad you found inspiration in the end! Good luck finding just the right clothes now.

Glad you found a pintrest board that resonates with you!

I have to say, a quick look at these types and I am all over the place. Doesn't seem like there is one that resonates with me at all.

E, I agree with you that it's an inspiration--not to create carbon copy outfits. It's a style direction, if you will. I think of it as a path to developing my signature style.

JennyH, it takes some doing. I've been trying to figure this Kibbe thing out for months. I still don't understand it, really. Without help from Psychedelicate and Sheila, I doubt I would have ever considered anything in the N category. My height kept me thinking I needed to be some type of G, even though I don't feel like a G. Maybe others can weigh in and help you.

Meanwhile, here's a chart I just found. ETA Psychedelicate says this chart is inaccurate. I trust her on this!

http://hilhombgaom.blogspot.co.....wrong.html

That chart is, unfortunately, inaccurate. For one, FG has yin and yang facial features, but yang dominates. SD is off too. There is definite yanginess in SD facial features! I have seen charts like that before, but if I went by charts alone, I wouldn't have found myself in a type at all.

The two things I recommend to people are:
1) Google "kibbe face collage" and paste a id-style photo of yourself in the types you're considering to see how the lines of your face (which will be repeated in your body but are easier to see in your face) fit with the ones of the women in that type. You can also try morphing a picture of your face at morphthing.com with celebrities. If you have a good bone structure "match," the resulting morph will be a seamless match of the two of you, neither dominating the other. (My best celeb match is Nastassja Kinski :D)

2) Figure out what you need in clothes and work backwards. I found that I need angles and structure, and in fact, in whatever type I tried on, I would always feel the need to add these two things. What doesn't work is things that are drapey, or clingy without being structured (spandex is okay; jersey is not). These led me to FG, even though I feel like my flesh at my current weight is pretty yin. You can look at photographs of yourself, too. Like Bettycrocker's ability to wear very drapey looks immediately let me know she wasn't FG.

Thanks again, Psychedelicate! You have once again come to the rescue regarding inaccuracies of online Kibbe information. I also very much appreciate the information you provided to me about the S curve in my face. I never "saw" it before.

I enjoyed perusing your archives, Psychedelicate. I'm guessing I'm a Soft Classic, though less classic in personal style than most suggestions.

Personal style is kind of beside the point when looking for your type, and can confuse people. The main thing with classic is simplicity--not "gilding the lily," so the speak. The symmetry and beauty of classic bone structure speaks for itself. Boho is the one thing I have found very difficult to imagine how it can be combined with classic, but basically, you just take what you love and put it in classic lines.

The book actually has a "fantasy" quiz, so you can identify which type reflects your current tastes/personality, and then your task is to figure out how to work that into your actual type if they don't match up.

I'm such a fricken 'natural' it's not even funny... would have loved to fancy myself a flamboyant natural at a younger age but truth wills out. I may have the long, narrow hands & feet of a flamboyant and the fine but shiny hair of a soft natural but mostly I am the basic girl-next-door natural and nothing ever changes that. It is interesting that kibbe came at this work from casting because whenever I've experimented through the years with dark dramatic makeup, a really blunt geometric haircut, or overly frilly or tailored clothing I have ended up feeling woefully 'miscast.'

I hear ya, thimbelina. Feeling miscast is what drives some of us to study color analysis, body shapes, and Kibbe categories. Sigh...

Wow, this is a great thread - very interesting, although I must admit I still find Kibbe mystifying ... I think I am a classic-dramatic but not sure if that is just what I'd prefer to be, or that's what I actually am ... I can't see lines in faces for the life of me; I don't have the eye for it.

Pychedelicate
, you see to have a true talent for it though!

bettycrocker
, hope your explorations have been helpful and fun!

Sometimes I wonder if Kibbe is deliberately vague so women will pay $$$ to go see him. Not all of us have $$$ to do that, and would appreciate some clarification! Even a used copy of his out-of-date book is pricey. Geez! Yes, thank goodness for Psychedelicate's knowledge and expertise.

Torontogirl: I always have fun with this kind of stuff, and refuse to let it frustrate me. I doubt fashion will ever become too serious for me. I do like to dress like I have a few clues about what suits me, though! I don't want to be a fashion victim or succumb to frumpiness.

I think you can get all the information you need from the book, much more than you can with something like Zyla, but there's just sooo much information. Once you land on the right type, though, it becomes much simpler to understand, IMO.

Thank you guys for the compliments! Style and color analysis has definitely emerged as one of my main hobbies this year.

Well, after giving it much thought, I broke down and ordered a copy of Kibbe's book. Since I lived through the '80s when this book was written, maybe I can make sense of it. At any rate, I'll be able to read what Kibbe wrote and not what someone else thinks about what he wrote.

I'm not happy with my hair. I like it short, but think it needs to be cut and styled differently. I have a hair appointment on the 29th, and hope to get some guidance from my hairdresser. I'm thinking of this:

http://www.latest-hairstyles.com/trends/fine.html Scroll down to the pic that has the "Clean Cut and Soft" caption.

Meanwhile, I found an aubergine Anne Klein faux wrap top

http://www.amazon.com/Anne-Kle.....B00LAYD0CK

and a nice casual dress from Modcloth

http://www.modcloth.com/shop/d.....abin-dress

that I hope will flatter and turn out to be decent quality for the $. I've only ordered from Modcloth once before--a dress that my DD ended up loving and begging me for--so I never had the chance to wear it. It has held up well for her.

I almost posted this same post, bettycrocker! Sorry to be a latecomer to this discussion but I've also been looking at Kibbe the last couple of months. I am pretty sure I'm a Soft Dramatic.

I find that some things with SD resonate incredibly well for me, and some of R resonates. I feel like I'm a blend of those -- if that's even possible. (My height and strong shoulders almost say N to me. But I feel my face isn't right for that type. And I hate "earthy" style clothes, or anything casual and too "natural" that just hangs on me. Unlike my sister who I'd say is a strong contender for N.) My style icon is Sophia Loren with some Brigitte Bardot thrown in.

Funny enough, I kind of have done what Psychedelicate proposes one do, and that's work backwards from the clothes. And it's obvious to me, that anything with plenty of drape and structure -- nothing that hangs. And that also points me in the SD direction. I can wear some R stuff, I think. But nothing too frilly, lacy, or stylized. It's gotta have drama and glitz, but softened. So... SD. That' what I'm going with anyway.


I don't know that you can take anything that Kibbe says too strongly or perfectly. I think everything he says is a bit of a generalization. Really, I'd say it's what jumps out at you as whole -- like being cast for a part.

Yay for Sheila and Psychedelicate pointing us in the right direction with Mr. Kibbe!!! You both are absolutely wonderful and doing a fab job of it!!

I wonder what part I'd be cast as? Lol!

bettycrocker, hahaha! Good one



Well, when you think of it, Meryl Streep has been cast in many different roles. She's supposedly a Kibbe Soft Classic, from what I've read.

I believe meryl streep and jessica chastain are dramatic classic. I looked at 20typesofbeauty and looked at the dresses they wore at the awards.