https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Sun, 26 Apr 2026 09:43:01 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1312146 Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:32:36 +0000 TraceyLiz65 1312146@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This is about a total lack of boundaries... For anyone to think they have the right to cross the line and determine what is appropriate for someone else's child is wrong.. With someone else's children you err on the side of being more cautious. &nbsp;..This individual knew it was wrong, hence asking them to keep it a secret... &nbsp;No adult should ask a chlld to keep a secret unless it's a surprise b'day party type thing and as parents things like this are a reminder to make sure your children know that....<br />THere really are a lot of toxic people in this world...I hope the replacement babysitter is well vetted and comes from a recommendation of someone who knows the person's character...</p> <p> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1312096 Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:45:58 +0000 Anonymous 1312096@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Disgusting. I hope that he is able to put a bad comment or some sort of review on this babysitter. I know it does not solve anything, the insensitivity and shock is already there, but at least will give some consolation. How horrifying! I'm sorry. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1310699 Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:08:57 +0000 jennifer 1310699@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I used to do quite a bit of babysitting as a teen . Personally I believe my standards for acceptable books, music,and movies was even MORE strict than some of my charges parents . What the teen did should get her blackballed in the community as a sitter. Obviously she is Not trustworthy in the care of children. When given charge of a child it's best to err on the side of caution. What's next ? Ignoring a life threatening allergy because they must be making it up or blowing it out of importance? The best interest of the children and the parents instructions should be paramount . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1308583 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 02:21:36 +0000 Isabel 1308583@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Janet, that is ALWAYS the hope in these things : &nbsp;that something new will come along. &nbsp;You never, ever know. &nbsp;Even if it is the opening of a clinical trial. I saw that so often when I was Harvard Med and the affiliated hospitals.&nbsp;</p> <p>More importantly, when you have children, every extra day is a huge step in their development ( unlike adults ). &nbsp;So every day that she is here to share with her children, is a huge impact on them. &nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p>Let her know that a bunch of women that she doesn't know are rooting her on !&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1308066 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:44:46 +0000 Janet 1308066@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you for asking, Dana. They're doing as well as can be expected. Their mom is in the hospital, full of a fresh infusion of blood and steroids, so she actually looks and feels better than she did a couple of weeks ago. They're continuing to be as positive as possible. I can't tell you how remarkable this woman is. She is off the charts for life expectancy for multiple myeloma, and she has beaten the odds for so many years. I know that it's inevitable that someday they would run out of options for continuing to buy time, but there has always been hope that another treatment will come along. </p> <p>I really appreciate all the responses and background on the SM thing too. I now get that it didn't start as something as warped as some recent events would indicate it has become (for some people!). I confess that my initial reaction was quite strong, just because I was so shocked that a babysitter would show some really adult content to kids, much less kids who are in a vulnerable place. Telling them to keep it secret was a big red flag. I guess she knows better now. </p> <p>Thank you for all your good thoughts and prayers. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1307681 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 02:20:14 +0000 ironkurtin 1307681@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Janet, how is the family doing now? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1307495 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 22:47:29 +0000 Isabel 1307495@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Neel, I think that your point is really the crux of the matter : &nbsp;no one, especially a babysitter should be encouraging children to do things that need to be kept a secret from the parents. &nbsp;No one. &nbsp;&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1307035 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:29:41 +0000 ironkurtin 1307035@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I think we can all agree the sitter made a very bad call here. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306945 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:27:00 +0000 Neel 1306945@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>What disturbs and annoys me more is the 'keep it a secret' part. If any adult (or anyone significantly older to my kids) said that to my kids, I would definitely say 'WTF' and fire them (if I paid them to look after my kids that is). Period.</p> <p>The girls need to be commended to have approached the dad. And the poor guy is obviously dealing with a lot already to deal with more issues caused by people who he entrusted to look after his children. Teens who decide to sit children need to understand their duties well. After all it is a responsibility which they agree to (and not forced to) take upon themselves.</p> <p>Janet, you clearly are a lovely friend and obviously you are angry on his behalf. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306866 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 03:20:36 +0000 Isabel 1306866@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>OMG !!!! &nbsp; What in the world did the babysitter think would be an acceptable outcome of doing this ? &nbsp;I know a little about Slenderman. The terrible thing about it is that it portends that he is real. &nbsp;10 year olds would have a very hard time thinking logically about it. &nbsp;Someone who is a babysitter should know better than to show kids scary things. I would venture to say that Slenderman is a bit more than just your typical "scary" story. The judgement call here by the babysitter is atrocious - brain chemistry or not. &nbsp;It shouldn't take much to understand that to tell 3 10 year olds about someone who accepts human sacrifice while their mom is being "sacrificed" is just bad.</p> <p>Regarding the attempted murder by the young girls who were Slenderman devotees ; &nbsp;one of the girls is mentally ill. &nbsp;That was not surprising.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306829 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 02:54:30 +0000 donnat 1306829@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well put ik. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306818 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 02:38:29 +0000 ironkurtin 1306818@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ceit, I'm glad you chimed in.</p> <p>Deborah, there's no app or movie to avoid with Slenderman. It's a meme, a viral story, like urban legends or Grumpy Cat.</p> <p>Also, this is a teen babysitter we're talking about, right? First, let's not tar all girl teen babysitters with the same brush. Second, this was a really bad lapse of judgement, but hardly criminal. Even her telling the kids it was a secret was probably some just-among-us-kids spooky build up. I remember rituals we "couldn't talk about," don't you?</p> <p>Teenagers often make bad decisions, it's in their brain chemistry and because of their limited understanding of life. They also live in a rarified world (at least in the US) that creates a self-contained teen reality. I'm sure this girl never stopped to think. And I'm so sorry the other children suffered and I feel for them deeply with what more is to come for them. It's heartbreaking. </p> <p>But I'm really surprised at the vehemently negative responses here over what was a very insensitive, stupid act, but really, not criminal or possibly even meant to be unkind. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306727 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 01:06:59 +0000 Gigi 1306727@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This is really horrifying.</p> <p>I know that ghost stories and the like can be a type of fun, but in our day and age, we also have very graphic images that go with these stories. In the past, it was just a story, and you made up your own images in your head. Or maybe someone would bring in a prop of sorts and say, "This is the backpack that little Charlie was carrying when he met the ghost." But when you see graphic images that are meant to look real (in a video, which it sounds like was the case here), you form a visual image in your brain as a memory that you cannot get rid of. For instance, how many of us can simply block out the pictures of 9/11 that we saw on the TV? We can't. They're burned into our memory. And real-life violence is enough without adding this stuff to it, imo.</p> <p>I think too there is a problem here with authority. Yes, if Mom and Dad decide that some kind of violent movie is OK to watch, there is kind of a safety net where Mom and Dad are watching with the kids, and they can discuss it later. But in this case, the babysitter just shows up and shows them this movie and then leaves. It doesn't sound to me like this was a psychologically healthy way to view this video. I hope that makes sense. I'm kind of having a hard time explaining what I mean.</p> <p>I read the Witches book that Irene mentioned, years ago. I loved it! But&nbsp;there was no sexual content, as far as I recall, and it was illustrated in a line-drawing way: no graphic violence was meant to appear real. And there was humor interspersed too, which helps the child put the whole story into context as fiction. (For example,&nbsp;I remember that children smelled stinky to witches and that children weren't supposed to bathe, because that made them even smellier to the witches!)</p> <p>I can only assume that this babysitter didn't know about the recent attempted murder surrounding the Slenderman story, or she wouldn't have done this. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306707 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 00:50:40 +0000 Echo 1306707@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Bravo to the kids for informing their dad immediately, and bravo to their dad for making his concerns known to authorities, too. I agree that there is violence and disturbing content online and in real life and that kids need to learn how to deal with it, but intentionally exposing minor children to something they are not ready and equipped for - especially when they are already going through a dark time in their lives - is irresponsible and potentially criminal, IMO. </p> <p>And to insist that ANYTHING be "secret" between a sitter or outside adult and someone else's children is a definite NO. I've always told my kids that if any adult EVER tells them to keep a secret, that means that something bad or illegal is going on and that they need to tell me at once. When they were small, they would come home from school and say, "We are making surprises at school for our mums for Mother's Day, and our teacher told us it is a secret until we bring it home, but I thought I should tell you." I would reassure them that them telling me that they were making something was enough in that instance, but thanked them and praised them for telling me. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes/page/2#post-1306583 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:39:53 +0000 rabbit 1306583@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I'm not a parent, but in thinking about the general issue, it's really about two things in my mind: &nbsp;a) exposing kids to scary or violent stuff that the kids don't have a choice about (i.e. the sitter, taking a toddler to a scary adult&nbsp;movie, etc.) &nbsp; b) &nbsp;teaching kids how to process or avoid&nbsp;the disturbing and graphic&nbsp;stuff they are going to run into online, because they will, &nbsp;and being curious and morbid&nbsp;like everyone else, they will sometimes seek it out. &nbsp;</p> <p>You can block google, but you also would have to block tumblr, twitter, facebook, wikipedia, livejournal and that's not even going into the fact that any friend's smartphone that links to the web links to the world including the graphic and disturbing parts.&nbsp; (Maybe I'm behind the times but I've yet to meet a safesearch program that didn't just slow down your computer and couldn't sometimes&nbsp;be worked around).&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Speaking of internet memes: 'brain bleach' &nbsp;'what has been seen cannot be unseen' the various 'NOPE' gifs, &nbsp;are all jokes about seeing or reading things online that you really wished that you hadn't. &nbsp;Fanfiction writers&nbsp;often post warnings at the beginning of their stories, but again, it's up to the reader to chose wisely which rabbit holes to go down. &nbsp;</p> <p>So maybe in my mind it's less about trying to block all the holes in the&nbsp;dam of information, because how could you really, &nbsp;but more like teaching how to be selective and read cues about the source before diving in. &nbsp;This is a useful skill&nbsp;not only because scary&nbsp;things can be scarring as opposed to spooky fun, but because certain online content (porn in all its forms for example) can sometimes&nbsp;become too enticing and addictive before someone learns to set limits for themselves or differentiate fantasy from reality.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306572 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:32:36 +0000 Irene 1306572@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I agree that&nbsp;these were not the right kids to listen to this story, but it's just a spooky story nevertheless! It's a fable, a myth, an internet creation, like the Boogey Man or Sleepy Hollow.<br />Come on, I still remember reading The Witches (Roald Dahl's) the first time around: that first chapter is the scariest I've read to this date. It starts saying that witches look like normal women, then adds that your teacher might be one of them&nbsp;and finishes saying that witches hate children (I was a child). Then he goes on to explain how this girl disappeared and showed up in a painting, where she kept growing old until one day she was gone... Still gives me the creeps, I am serious.&nbsp;</p> <p>Just because one crazy kid killed his parents because of a video game (or role game, can't remember) it doesn't mean video games or role playing are a bad thing. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306570 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:30:59 +0000 Anonymous 1306570@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Wow, that is horrible. I have a bit of a soft spot for Slenderman, but mainly because of an academic journal I webmaster for. We had a great article recently in our monsters issue about the origin of Slenderman and how it provides a window into what is deemed monstrous today.</p> <p><a href="http://www.semioticreview.com/index.php/thematic-issues/issue-monsters/22-the-sort-of-story-that-has-you-covering-your-mirrors-the-case-of-slender-man" rel="nofollow">http://www.semioticreview.com/.....lender-man</a></p> <p>Sounds like the original idea has been elaborated and twisted further. So sorry for those poor kids.</p> <p>I think occult/monster/scary is a phase a lot of teenagers are drawn to (growing up it was a Ouija board and horror films/books) but that is a severe lapse in judgement on the part of that babysitter. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306560 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:22:44 +0000 Caro in Oz 1306560@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>No words!!!!!<br />Lots of good thoughts for this family, I'm so glad they could talk to their dad.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306543 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:03:05 +0000 viva 1306543@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>The internet has made it easy to twist what used to be just creepy urban legend into things potentially much more lurid and thus confusing and powerfully dark ... that, and the incredibly bad timing of sharing this with your friend's daughters ... it all just makes me terribly sad. They are so vulnerable right now. I'm so glad they were able to go right to their dad. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306537 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 21:56:25 +0000 Deborah 1306537@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Janet I am so sorry about this, and I am thankful that you posted because my son has recently mentioned Slender Man to me (he is 11). We are careful about what he looks at but sometimes something does get through. We have just had a chat and are checking his devices are clean of this game/program. And IK thanks for the further clarification on it. </p> <p>Will be upholding the kids and your friends family in prayer xxx </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306500 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 21:17:14 +0000 claracluck 1306500@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Janet I'm glad he has a good friend in you. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306368 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:18:37 +0000 Janet 1306368@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Lyn, I agree. I'm so glad these girls had the trust to talk to their dad about this. This family has a really strong network of supportive people, which is good for all sorts of reasons right now.&nbsp;</p> <p>I also get that kids have a natural curiosity about death, and my friend's children&nbsp;have lost their grandparents already so they understand loss,&nbsp;but I can't help but think that this is a TERRIBLE time to introduce them to stories of violent death, especially stories that involve abduction and killing of children. They're already feeling vulnerable (they do not yet know the full extent of their mother's situation -- my friend was going to sit them down today once their older brother was home from a beach trip with a friend). The timing is absolutely awful.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306338 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:04:41 +0000 lyn* 1306338@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hmm, I'm of two schools of thought on this one - it's probably not the right context for bringing up these types of stories with girls that are going through a lot right now, and it's good that they are able to talk to their dad about it.</p> <p>I think that after someone is exposed to stuff like this, it's important for them to work through it with someone that they trust (such as their father), as opposed to saying this stuff is all bad and it shouldn't be talked about and put away.&nbsp;</p> <p>While we didn't have the internet growing up, there were some murders and things going on when I was about that age, and of course, there was also 9/11. I did a lot of my own research when my parents didn't want to talk about stuff like that which is good/bad in its own way. I think kids naturally have a curiosity about death and it's good to address it in an open way with them. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306283 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:19:52 +0000 ironkurtin 1306283@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Janet, yeah, it started out as just a story. &nbsp;Fiction is incredibly powerful, and in this case, not as a force for good. We could have a whole conversation on how creating stories meant to inspire fear and catharsis can actually be useful, but it's 100% clearly not appropriate for these children. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306280 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:19:21 +0000 Suz 1306280@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>OMG. This is <b>SO</b> upsetting. I am furious on that dad's behalf and aching for those poor girls. The keeping it secret part is the worst of all! I am so glad they spoke to their dad.&nbsp;</p> <p>Now I am worried that maybe my daughter knows about this. I had not heard of it. That's what I get for keeping my head in YLF all the time.....the world seems like a nice place where you are on here half the day....&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306245 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:48:54 +0000 Transcona Shannon 1306245@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>OMG!!! My 19 year-old son told me about this and he won't watch or participate in any discussions about it. In his words "that's just bloody sick and twisted".</p> <p>That is an incredibly insensitive babysitter and should know better than to expose not only impressionable young children to something like Slenderman, but children who are already feeling emotionally raw.</p> <p>If I were the father, I might be letting the babysitter's parents know? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306216 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:13:44 +0000 Janet 1306216@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>IK, it may have started a bit more innocently, I dunno, but what the sitter had them watching was filled with foul language and horrific murder for sexual gratification. So this fairy tale has clearly taken on some really adult overtones and has some really awful associations. So yeah, terrible, terrible judgment on the sitter's part. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306215 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:13:20 +0000 Thistle 1306215@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>First, deepest sympathies to your friend and his children. I cannot even imagine what they are going through. Losing your mom as a chld is devastating enough. This Slender Man garbage is just not needed.&nbsp; What they need is something light and uplifting.</p> <p>No idea how old the babysitter is, but some kids have better judgement than others. No excuse for it. And I am hoping she was using it as a scary camp fier story rather than actually beleiving in it. Either way, so far off base as to not even be in the park.</p> <p>As for Slenderman, the incident actually happened in my town. One of the parents of one of the perpetrators works at my company. So yeah, heard waaaay more than I wanted to about it.</p> <p>In a nutshell, Slender Man was an internet meme, created in an internet contest to be scary, like the next Freddy. As internet memes do, a lot of fan fiction was created. None of it real. None of it meant to be. But the girls involved thought it was real. And were either evil enough or mentally disturbed enough that they wanted to essentially join&nbsp;Slender Man /&nbsp;Freddy's side. </p> <p>All involved were young, very young, 13 at the oldest. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306206 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:56:21 +0000 crutcher 1306206@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>How old is this baby sitter?...I think she had very little compassion or judgement to bring this up to kids who are already raw emotionally...I have and am learning that you have to really take people where they are and often times...we just aren't aware where they are...<br />That said...I hope the Dad will at the least have a talk with this babysitter and maybe use this as a teachable moment..or at the most have a talk with the police...<br />Poor children...just one more nail in the heart... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wtf-is-wrong-with-people-sometimes#post-1306201 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:47:00 +0000 Astrid 1306201@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I didn't know Slender Man so I went and googled it and after I saw the first few images I stopped looking. I categorically refuse to watch any kind of horror movie (those films that consist of nothing but horror) and thinking of anyone making young children watch something like this just makes me sick. Never mind the whole "keeping it secret" stuff, that just makes it worse. </p>