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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 14:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks &#060;b&#062;Jussie&#060;/b&#062;, I do have 2 knit dresses for winter but rarely wear them because the only footwear I have that works is chelsea boot style and sometimes that is just not warm enough with thick tights. I'm on the hunt for some tall boots and once I find them this could change this picture. A statement puffer is a great idea, I'll keep my eyes open for them.&#038;nbsp; The shirt w/collar is something I used to wear a lot and need to play with more, good suggestion!&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>jussie on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>jussie</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;It’s quite hard in winter, outfits do tend to feel more masculine/boring/repetitive.&#060;br /&#062;
Would you consider some kind of winter dress? A sweater dress for example? I have one, and it’s woolen, so very warm and comfortable.&#060;br /&#062;
It just adds a bit more variety, and is “one and done” so easier than separates to be honest.&#060;br /&#062;
Another fun thing is a statement puffer coat. They aren’t common but they do exist. Even a velvet puffer. I have a velvet one in dark red and it’s a lifesaver in winter.&#060;br /&#062;
Another idea is wearing a collared striped shirt under your camel sweater and popping the collar up for a flash of colour or print. Depends on the thicknesses of the fabrics whether that works or not or whether it’s too preppy but I have seen it look very effective under the right circumstances.&#060;br /&#062;
Fwiw I like your outfits and your overall look.
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;RobinF &#060;/b&#062;- good suggestions ... a little bit of ruffle might be ok ... yeah I get you&#038;nbsp;on the pants! &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks &#060;b&#062;Suz &#060;/b&#062;I'll take a look at those pants. I think I want to&#038;nbsp;try some outfits from my closet to get the hang of it before&#038;nbsp;I do any more shopping but I'll save the find for them&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks &#060;b&#062;Judy&#060;/b&#062;, good point about coats. I think I've been stuck for a long time in the mindset I grew up with of &#034;one regular coat, one nicer coat&#034; being enough. Maybe it IS enough but it's not the only way to go!&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>judy on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 20:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Well, so many good ideas here for you, to try out new silhouettes or colors. I just want to say I think you look really good, and also, I understand about kind of &#034;not feeling&#034; it at times...particularly at this time of year when we have to pile on the layers.&#038;nbsp; I find too that sometimes the addition of one new thing, say a newer modern coat or a new pant can do wonders for our feelings and bring us back from the edge to give all the rest of our clothes a new life.&#038;nbsp; Good luck!
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				<title>Suz on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Chris&#060;/b&#062;, if available, give these a try:&#038;nbsp;&#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;https://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=445611&#038;amp;vid=1&#038;amp;autosuggest=true&#038;amp;searchText=sien&#038;amp;position=3&#038;amp;results=6#pdp-page-content&#034;&#062;https://bananarepublic.gap.com.....#038;searc&#060;/a&#062;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They come in petite and also in short regular (for comparison, if need be).&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I got mine on sale in navy and they are a fantastic trouser. Fantastic quality for the sale price (even the higher sale price in CAD.)&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They are unlined so you would not want to wear them in your very coldest temperatures on your walks without a long coat and/or long undies. But for all other purposes (e.g. at home, in car, going out and about in slightly warmer temps) they would work beautifully. They have a lovely drape.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They fit TTS in the waist area and are quite generously cut in hips, thighs, bottom. They skim without clinging.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>RobinF on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;This has been a great thread to read! So much great advice!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I often feel too masculine with sweaters too. What about wearing something totally girly with them - like a top with ruffles that stick out somewhere - collar or cuffs? I do think that is a difference with an asymmetrical or hi-lo hem too - it feels more flowy and feminine.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;The pants thing is also an issue for me. I put off changing the silhouette as long as I could. I finally found some wider legs that I like just this fall, from Target so an inexpensive experiment. I like them cropped with higher shaft boots but still struggle with a length on longer ones. And of course none are petites so rise can be an issue.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Sal,&#060;/b&#062; I think you nailed it&#038;nbsp; &#034;.&#060;i&#062;.. when nothing quite feels right. Sometimes it is more&#038;nbsp;about other things in life than the clothes, but fixing the&#038;nbsp;&#060;/i&#062;&#060;i&#062;clothes can help make you feel better about the other things.&#034;&#060;/i&#062;.  Like how smiling can make you feel better even if you don't feel like smiling. :-)&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Angie,&#060;/b&#062; excellent idea! I own this single pair of pants in that toffee/tan color, probably a bit lightweight for winter (although maybe ok). Will do some outfit creations at some point to get some ideas.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Angie on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Chris&#060;/b&#062;, whenever you're ready :)&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I can only imagine that toffee/tan Winter pants would become your Winter essential! And by all means try Boden again. Their coats are roomier at the moment.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;You have had some really good practical advice Chris so I hope that some resonates and can help you find your style groove.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I know that feeling, when nothing quite feels right.&#038;nbsp; Sometimes it is more about other things in life than the clothes, but fixing the clothes can help make you feel better about the other things.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;These outfits look good from the outside so I think a few tweaks might help them feel better from the inside.
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 00:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Angie,&#038;nbsp;&#060;/b&#062;No I do not own a coat in that oatmeal/winter white color and I've been thinking it might be a good addition. The largest Boden petites were too small&#038;nbsp;for me a few years ago before I lost a little weight so might work now. And excellent suggestion to swap out the&#038;nbsp;grey pants in that outfit for toffee/tan, which I don't currently own .... well I&#038;nbsp;do actually but they are more a summer weight but I could try them. Love the idea of a&#038;nbsp;separate thread for pants! Maybe not until mid January, I've got a lot going on but a fabulous idea! &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Nemosmom&#060;/b&#062;, thanks, and your advice is super ... I always prefer&#038;nbsp; low contrast between to/bottom&#038;nbsp;but sometimes forget.  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Liz&#060;/b&#062; I totally empathize with your pant fit issues. GREAT suggestion to taper the legs .. I am thinking about a specific pair&#038;nbsp;of jeans where I can&#038;nbsp; experiment with this. &#060;/p&#062;
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Angie &#060;/b&#062;makes an interesting point about the grey pants in #1. Hmmm. (I'm learning from all this, so thank you, Chris, for bringing up the questions. Very helpful to read the responses.)&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Liz&#060;/b&#062;, I have a similar feeling -- a lot of straight legs (especially jeans) do not feel good on me because my thighs are rather muscular / large in comparison to the rest of my leg.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;The only ones I've found that work are quite baggy (and cropped, to temper some of the volume). Or slim stovepipes...or, as you say, slightly tapered, so BF styles.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Pants are a lot easier because of the drape.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Liz on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 22:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;div&#062;To counteract the &#034;heavy&#034; feel, I'm a fan of boots that would be the same color level as your hair (taupe, beige, or light gray). &#060;br /&#062;&#060;/div&#062;&#060;div&#062;&#060;br /&#062;&#060;/div&#062;&#060;div&#062;Also, I have real trouble with the classic straight-leg cut of pants because my leg shape isn't nice and straight and long. I have large thighs (no pants are made with enough ease in the thigh!) compared to my hips and knees. So a straight-leg cut often fits me very snugly on the thighs and then is loose and floppyish from the knee down. That loose lower leg can make me feel very mannish, for some reason. I feel much better if I get out my sewing machine and taper the lower leg a bit, so that the fit is a bit closer to my leg -- not as close as the thigh, but just a bit more intentional, as if it were cut to follow the shape of my leg a bit better.&#038;nbsp; &#060;br /&#062;&#060;/div&#062;
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				<title>nemosmom on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>nemosmom</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Well I am late to this, and you have already received a lot of great tips. I don’t have much to add, but want to echo those who say you look great. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;If you are feeling like some combination is “too much”, try changing up the contrast. Darker top with a darker bottom (and vice versa), instead of contrasting halves, or matching the contrast of the shoe to the pant, helps me feel more “toned down” sometimes.
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				<title>Angie on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 21:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Chris,&#060;/b&#062; do you need an oatmeal coat (A Winter White)? Something like this Find? It's neutral, quiet, versatile, and NOT black :)&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;YES! I saw the cinnamon puffer under the burgundy coat after &#060;b&#062;Suz&#060;/b&#062; kindly pointed it out. The colour there that is off to my eye, is the grey. (I know you like it, though! Old Armani combination). A pair of earthy toffee/tan/camel/oatmeal pants instead of the grey would minimize the colour palette, clean up the burgundy-cinnamon pairing, and calm the outfit (less chaotic as you suggested). If you wanted to work with the outerwear what you have.......this is an option :)&#038;nbsp;
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&#060;p&#062;Sooooo, as for the pants. Start a separate thread and we'll trouble shoot and brainstorm what you are looking for in a more focused way.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 20:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Thanks all &#060;/b&#062;for understanding that some of these outfits may not make me happy even if many of you&#038;nbsp;think the colors and combinations are great on me. I am trying to find a balance between what feels good vs. what looks good&#038;nbsp;and they are not always the same thing. Plus they can change over time  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  I truly appreciate the enormous diversity of fashion styles here at YLF and would much rather hear differing opinions than a bunch of the same thing!&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 20:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Indigoprint ... &#060;/b&#062;the high/low hem thing is a good idea in tops&#060;br /&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#060;br /&#062;&#038;nbsp;Joy &#060;/b&#062;&#038;nbsp;Thanks, and I agree that maybe less casual would be good, but traditional&#038;nbsp; &#034;dressy&#034; is not what I want. Maybe ONE &#034;dressy&#034; item in an outfit - like a pretty blouse with trendy jeans and current looking booties.&#060;br /&#062;
Chocolate brown could be good. I am ALWAYS looking for texture but don't find it easy to find. And yes it does take time!&#038;nbsp; I'm not expecting a miraculous quick overhaul. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#038;nbsp;Rachy&#060;/b&#062;&#038;nbsp;yes jewelry is a good idea but it's tough for me to do in winter when I really need to have my neck covered. A simple necklace over a turtleneck sweater&#060;br /&#062;
seems so predictable  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  Thanks for the hair comment! &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#038;nbsp;Suz&#060;/b&#062;, textural variation and shine are great ideas, just not easy to find for me after I get through all the fit issues. It's a good remnider.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#038;nbsp;&#060;b&#062;Sta&#060;/b&#062;r good question about the olive pants; they are a warm toned olive which is probably why I don't want to wear them with the cooler grey puffer. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Olive Green&#060;/b&#062; thanks for the kind words, and fascinating tht you find the patterned tops/coats to be more flattering on me than solids. I'm going to have to look at that again. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#038;nbsp;CarolS&#060;/b&#062; good suggestions! shorter pants, higher shaft boots, lighter pants, etc ... I AM definitely going to try to work with what I have even as I consider new options. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#038;nbsp;kkards&#060;/b&#062; good suggestions, although those two examples are on sites that do not show rise length and  I'm not ordering any more pants without knowing that.&#038;nbsp; I could see if they do online chat and ask them but I've found some of the CS reps cannot answer that specific question at some companies. Your ideas are good!
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Angie&#060;/b&#062; - the issue I have with wearing olive pants in winter is finding a coat that goes with them, not the pants themselves. I only like black or white with olive and&#038;nbsp;have no white/ivory coats and only one black wool coat (plus a black heavy puffer) . As&#060;b&#062; ljp&#060;/b&#062; put it, it's tough to find the right coat/boots to go with, although in my case it's just the coats that are the issue.  It becomes a real&#038;nbsp;limitation in creating an outfit.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks &#060;b&#062;Jaime!&#060;/b&#062; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;ljp&#060;/b&#062; I found those pieces on the US ON site, although the colors for the pants are different. Interesting possibilities.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Suz&#060;/b&#062;, you are so right about us all being so different!  Hmm ... in your view the straight&#038;nbsp;cuts are more current than waist defined ones ... I think I do see that. Great to hear all your&#038;nbsp;style update ideas! I really have to get my head out of the sand on the pants styles. The reason&#038;nbsp;I haven't adopted shorter lengths/higher shaft booties is because to my eye they shorter&#038;nbsp;my legs and exaggerate my thigh size. But, the right pieces in a column of color idea just might change&#038;nbsp;my mind.  And definitely need to try the larger tops. Hah, nodding to my twin with &#034;olive pants orphaned in winter&#034;. :-)&#038;nbsp;I too still have some older sweaters from L&#038;amp;T, Macys etc ... and a few are oversized so I'll have to play with them. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Dee,&#060;/b&#062; always happy to start a conversation that has eomthing to offer for others!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks&#060;b&#062; RunCarla!&#060;/b&#062; I will take your advice and not get rid of any boots. Also, I've been picky about grey/silver not going with olive, but I probably need to relax&#038;nbsp;that a little because maybe sometimes they will go together depending ...  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;ljp,&#060;/b&#062; ecellent suggestion about a looser fitting top. Others have suggested it too .... clearly something I need to try. Brown is a FAB idea, in fact I toyed with adding&#038;nbsp;some brown pieces earlier in the fall but didn't feel like looking for all the completer pieces I thought I'd need plus I couldn't decide WHAT brown. I do have quite a few&#038;nbsp;things in medium and light camel ...  and yes the grey pants are a straight leg 5 pocket style in twill ...definitely conservative ...the paler boot idea is also one I've been toying with for ages ... and will have to play with the idea of dressy sweats. Aha, another member of the olive&#038;nbsp;pants/winter orphan club!  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Suz &#060;/b&#062;- agree about scarves, they are absolutely essential for me in winter to keep my neck warm and I have always&#038;nbsp;loved wearing them at many times of year. And, like you have gotten tired of them.&#038;nbsp;(I still keep most of them figuring things will come around agai). I like the idea of wearing them in an outfit with one more current piece. Most of my winter&#060;br /&#062;scarves are speifically for staying warm so I already take them off indoors but lighter weight wool ones can go either way.&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 18:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;so I need to start from the top.....&#060;br /&#062;Angie&#060;/b&#062; - fascinating all the variety you see in those who wear classic styles.&#038;nbsp;Thanks for the encouragement. As far as the plaid coat, I think I get too tied up in&#038;nbsp;trying to figure out exactly what colors are in the plaid instead of &#034;what looks&#038;nbsp;good&#034;. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Black/Whtie items worn with earth tones sounds good, I just need to figure out what I like vs don't like. I already know I'm a long&#038;nbsp;term lover of camel w/ grey ... i.e. Armani colors.   &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Yes I have to try some of the other pant leg styles you recommended. I've been playing ostrich on that&#038;nbsp;one; there are just SO many different ones! And definitley could use some pants&#038;nbsp;instead of jeans.&#038;nbsp;Lots of great ideas in your list! I DO like graphic patterns better than most other patterns.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;The photo makes it hard to see but I DID put the cinnamon puffer under the burgundy raincoat and somehow the color&#038;nbsp;combo seemed blah to me ... adding boots in those colors didn't occur to me but it still feels like too many colors including the grey  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And yes trying some looser fit/broader shoulder  sweaters is a great idea. I do have a few. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks &#060;b&#062;Helena!&#060;/b&#062; Yeah these burgundy lug sole booties are definitely on-trend, there is just something about burbundy where I don't want any other non-neutral colors with it or somethng. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Jenni NZ&#060;/b&#062; that is an excellent question and and I find it's not so easy to answer  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  . Maybe the too much going on is in my closet, and in a few of these outfits, but not all of them.&#038;nbsp;I see too many colors in my closet and feel overwhelmed .... and I prefer very few non-neutral colors per outfit ... maybe part of the&#038;nbsp;answer is to re-org my closet so&#038;nbsp;the non-neutrals are away from the neutrals ... and maybe as you say I want those incredibly minimalistic outfits with one- two neutrals ...&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Angie on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Chris&#060;/b&#062;, I didn't realize that the cinnamon puffer was under the burgundy raincoat in #2. It looks like a tonal cinnamon match on my screen! Thanks, &#060;b&#062;Suz. &#060;/b&#062;And&#038;nbsp;while I think it looks&#038;nbsp;amazing -&#038;nbsp;you're not happy. Always on the side of the wearer! Onward to another combo :)&#060;b&#062;&#060;/b&#062;
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				<title>LJP on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Yes, I did see that &#038;nbsp;Chris was wearing the puffer/coat combo - I was trying to offer some support for that look but you're right Suz. When someone doesn't like something, no amount of talking into it is appropriate . My apologies , Chris.
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				<title>Chris987 on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 16:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Chris987</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;So much great feedback! It' going to take me a while but I promise to reply to all!&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>CarolS on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Oops, sorry, Chris for missing that you had already nixed that puffer combo with the burgundy coat. I really do like it on you....&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And to Suz's point -- the very things that -- in some of our views - would add the oomph you are looking for -- are the very things that make you feel less comfortable and maybe we need to understand more. :-)&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Suz on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;To further this analysis, I just want to point out that &#060;b&#062;Chris IS &#060;/b&#062;wearing the cinnamon puffer under the burgundy coat in #2 -- and didn't like this.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;i&#062;#1+2 Camel Franco Sarto booties, Grey twill jeans, camel sweater, cinnamon puffer, burgundy raincoat, scarf with all these&#060;/i&#062;&#060;br /&#062;&#060;i&#062;colors.&#060;br /&#062;&#060;/i&#062;&#060;br /&#062;I love this look, but &#060;b&#062;Chris&#060;/b&#062; expressed dissatisfaction with it. So maybe we can help her figure out why.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;What's more, many of us have commented that &#060;b&#062;Chris looks&#060;/b&#062; best in the warmer tones and/or pattern (I agree with you on that, &#060;b&#062;Olive Green&#060;/b&#062;) -- but Chris says she &#060;b&#062;feels&#060;/b&#062; best in neutrals, with only one colour -- black/ white/ grey/ denim.— and that for her, even camel counts as a &#034;colour&#034; in her closet.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Chris feels there is &#034;too much going on&#034; &#060;/b&#062;in some of these outfits, whereas from the outside, several of us think they look &#034;just right&#034; or that the slightly &#034;masculine&#034; vibe of the simpler indoor versions that she does not care for is in part a function of &#034;not &#060;b&#062;enough&#060;/b&#062; going on.&#034;&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;So we have conundrums here. What to do? As &#060;b&#062;Angie&#060;/b&#062; says, it's all about &#060;b&#062;how it feels to the wearer.&#060;/b&#062; I guess when &#060;b&#062;Chris&#060;/b&#062; responds we will get a bit more info to work with!&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>kkards on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think you look great, but understand wanting to expand and try something new&#060;br /&#062;i’d recommend wide leg or loose legged jean, for example these Everlane (not petite but they do some in short), and 3 different washes&#060;br /&#062;&#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;https://www.everlane.com/products/womens-way-high-sailor-jean-deep-blue?collection=womens-jeans&#034;&#062;https://www.everlane.com/produ.....mens-jeans&#060;/a&#062;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Or maybe a ponte pant with a nice weight, they are easy to care for, just as comfortable as sweats, but look polished and put together. I recommend Saint &#038;amp; Sofia which offers many styles in different in seams&#060;br /&#062;&#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;https://saintandsofia.com/products/apartment-pant-charcoal-straight-leg-pant&#034;&#062;https://saintandsofia.com/prod.....t-leg-pant&#060;/a&#062;
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				<title>CarolS on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hi Chris - There are already lots of great suggestions here!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;You mentioned that the vibe was feeling &#034;heavy, masculine, and boring&#034; to you. I think you don't have to go full on flowy feminine to shift that feeling.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;The suggestions for straight-leg trousers in place of jeans is one idea that will help bring a bit of softness and add interest by varying the proportion a bit. If your top is fitted, play with a bit of volume on the bottom (not full on wide legs, although I do think you could carry off a reasonably wide leg beautifully).&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;A slightly shorter pant with a higher shaft boot is another suggestion that could bring that bit of femininity by alluding to a bit of 'skin' at the ankle. Scrunching up sleeves of a sweater can do the same thing -- an easy, no-cost way to wear a classic piece you already own in a slightly more modern way...&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;FWIW, I don't think you have too much going on colour wise in any of these -- A lighter pant could help 7/8 feel more tonal. #2 is a lovely interesting mix of neutrals. And I would totally agree with whoever suggested the cinnamon puffer under the burgundy rain jacket. That's one of my favourite non-colour colour combinations. To my eye (and yours may differ) it's these kinds of interesting but not crazy combos that add that little something extra that takes an outfit from flat to interesting -- so maybe worth continuing to experiment with it?&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;For the most part, you can probably get the updated feel you are after by just making some subtle twists to how you wear your existing classics. YLF!!
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				<title>Olive Green on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I am clothes neutral these last couple decades, lol, and have almost NO pattern in my entire wardrobe, and I love the patterned coats and sweater on you. They seem to make your face pop and have visual impact that matches your hair and expression. The all neutrals outfits, while excellent outfits (your shoes and boots very current looking) &#038;nbsp;kind of pull back and it gets bland? &#038;nbsp;Your face gets lost, and you are attractive!
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				<title>Star (Lise) on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 13:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Star (Lise)</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Outfit 4 is a great outfit!&#038;nbsp; I like #8 too, although I would wear black boots with it.&#038;nbsp; Are your olive pants more of a cool olive?&#038;nbsp; If so why not try them with your grey puffer?&#038;nbsp; A bit of a juxtaposition, like light blue and a darker green.&#038;nbsp; Maybe it could work...
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				<title>Suz on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 05:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#060;b&#062;Rachy&#060;/b&#062; (as always!) is onto something. Remember that old mantra -- Transcona Shannon used to rely on it: colour, pattern, texture, shine. And the more neutral your preferred outfits/ style the more you need to rely on textural variation and shine for that little bit of &#034;oomph.&#034;&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>rachylou on "WIW(s) 12/3 - Outfits Needing Fashion Mojo"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 05:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;These are all really good outfits. It occurs to me that you might be seeking a finishing flare. A little bit of shine, perhaps. Jewelry?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Your hair btw is looking fabulous!
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