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			<title>YouLookFab Forum &#187; Topic: WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?</title>
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				<title>Beth Ann on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 04:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Beth Ann</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks for sharing a look for troubleshooting -- it's a reminder that we all have to try things and think a bit outside the block to keep having fun with fashion!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I'm having a devil of a time with all these dropped shoulder tops and sweaters!&#038;nbsp; To me, a fluid fit with natural shoulder seams hangs so much better!&#038;nbsp; Id try layering with that sort of shoulder, or a raglan shoulder, rather than the dropped line.&#038;nbsp; Also --- what about a silky shirt?&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>DonnaF on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 04:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>DonnaF</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;How about a side semi-tuck to give you a diagonal line?
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				<title>karymk on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 03:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>karymk</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I'm thinking that when you want to create a look like this it would be best to buy the two pieces together, on the same day. &#038;nbsp;I haven't even dared to try this look, because I find it daunting,&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;so kudos! I don't think it's that bad, it's just not fab.
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				<title>jackiec on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>jackiec</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think all of the advice given already has been really good. What I want to add is just that the colour of that sweater is amazing on you. You seem to glow. You look wonderful in that shade of pink.
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				<title>Neel on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Neel</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Lots of fantastic advice here Elizabeth.  I actually think slimmer bottoms with scrunched sleeves (and the white sleeves peeking out) could already make this look better.  The sweater could be a wee bit shorter and you would be good to go.
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				<title>Elizabeth P on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Elizabeth P</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks Marley, lots of great suggestions. I think you're absolutely right in that this sweater is too boxy for layering, and I'll wear it in its own going forward. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I'm so glad I posted this now!  I think you get more insight trying to figure out why something didn't work, than when it does.
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				<title>Marley on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 03:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Marley</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think that if the layering shirt had longer shirt-tails that it would look better and work to elongate the look of the outfit. Or - if the sweater was cropped! &#038;nbsp;One or the other!&#060;br /&#062;Something that might help with this layering piece is to unbutton one more button on the shirt and pop the color. &#038;nbsp;That would probably give the illusion of a more vertical line.&#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;&#038;nbsp;However, those&#038;nbsp;&#060;i&#062;stripes&#038;nbsp;&#060;/i&#062;- big, bold color, and so&#060;b&#062; horizontal!!!! &#060;/b&#062;&#038;nbsp;Add a boat neck-line to it - and IMHO you're just asking for a boxy look. &#038;nbsp;This sweater is going to look boxy with or without a layering piece underneath. &#038;nbsp;I'm guessing that you like this sweater on its own because it doesn't feel so bulky so I'd wear this one solo and try the layering look with a better sweater specimen! &#038;nbsp;:-)
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				<title>catgirl on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>catgirl</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;You've gotten great feedback.&#038;nbsp; I wouldn't have been able to put my finger on why, but I do think this look is way harder to master than anyone would expect.&#038;nbsp; Let's keep trying!
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				<title>Elizabeth P on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Elizabeth P</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks Suz, Laura and kkards.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Laura,&#038;nbsp; I think you are onto something with the dropped shoulder observation.. I never thought of that!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Suz, I've always been a tucker too...so much easier! :)&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And yes, perhaps lighter bottoms would also work better.&#038;nbsp; 
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				<title>Suz on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;This layering thing. Who knew it would be so darn hard?&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I have been struggling in a similar fashion (har har) and I think you've received some good suggestions. My first thought was swap the pants for lighter ones.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Next I wondered about the fabric of the shirt. I have had good success layering silky or silk shirts and showing shirttails. I have had &#060;b&#062;LESS &#060;/b&#062;success when I try to work with crisp cotton. Even in the unlikely event that I get the proportions correct, the shirt bunches up or wrinkles and looks weird. I don't know how those bloggers stay so crisp!&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I can layer a &#060;b&#062;TUCKED&#060;/b&#062; crisp cotton shirt under a sweater. I've been doing that forever and it works just fine for me. But those shirttails are the devil.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;This sweater is gorgeous on you. And I have high tolerance for its boxy shape. I would say it probably looks better unlayered, though -- partly due to the wide horizontal stripes and partly due to the way the shoulders are set, as Laura says.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Laura (rhubarbgirl) on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Laura (rhubarbgirl)</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I have found that layering under anything with extended / dropped shoulders, which this has, never seems to work well. It adds bulk in an unnecessary way.
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				<title>kkards on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>kkards</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;i'm struggling with layer as well, but i wonder if part of the issue here is actually the pants….what happens if you swap the dark bottoms for white, so that there's less contrast? i'm thinking that then the sweater would appear less boxy.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Elizabeth P on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Elizabeth P</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks for the suggestions thirkellgirl, KL and L'Abeille.&#038;nbsp; I think you're right... this is just not the sweater to play with layering with. I agree that the neckline doesn't work well. &#038;nbsp; I wish I could see these things BEFORE I wear them all day! LOL.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I do love this sweater with a tank and jeans for weekend wear though.&#038;nbsp; 
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				<title>L'Abeille on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>L'Abeille</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the shirt and sweater are too similar in shape. One of them needs to be looser or tighter or longer or shorter.&#060;br /&#062;
(That's probably why the Tshirt layered is more pleasing to your eye.)&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Just for fun, what if you try folding the sweater hem under, to make it look cropped? (I recall a blogger doing this.) To tweak it towards a short over long silhouette. If it looks better with those proportions, perhaps a longer shirt would work with this sweater?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Of course, you know what I would do! Push up the sweater sleeves and fold the shirt sleeves up over them...&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I feel you, though. I have a similar sweater (navy Breton stripe) and it is too in-the -middle to play nice with others, so I don't reach for it.
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				<title>Kristin L on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Kristin L</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I'm with Thirkellgirl. I think the sweater looks lovely, but it doesn't play well being layered with button downs.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Thirkellgirl on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Thirkellgirl</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the shirt covers too much of the neckline above the sweater, and it's too loose overall, and I suspect the sweater is not big enough to be &#034;loose,&#034; but not tight enough to be form-fitting. I think that if you wore a slimmer shirt with an open color it might work better, but I think the cut of the sweater, especially the shoulders, just is boxy. Been there, done that, moved to smaller and more structured sweaters. I have a lovely LLBean sweater cut like that that I've tried to make work for years, but I just got rid of it. It's not me (or you), it's them.
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				<title>Elizabeth P on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Elizabeth P</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Oops. Thanks Parsley.
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				<title>Parsley on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Parsley</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Pictures?
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				<title>Elizabeth P on "WIW 14 11 13.  JFE or just plain sloppy?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Elizabeth P</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I wore this on Thursday, in an attempt to experiment more with layering.&#038;nbsp; I dunno...by the end of the day the shrt tails were wrinkled from sitting, and when I look at the photo I see boxy, not flattering.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Wasn't going to post this, but in the effort to learn and improve, I will.&#038;nbsp; What do you think?&#038;nbsp; What does and doesn't work?&#038;nbsp; JFE?&#038;nbsp; Or should I just give up on layering with a button down, as not good for my body type?&#038;nbsp;O do I need a welt on a sweater to wear it like this, to cut down on the boxiness?&#038;nbsp; I have worn this sweater successfully with a tank or tee under it in the past.&#038;nbsp; Or at least, I think I have :)&#060;/p&#062;
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&#060;p&#062;I guess the other option is a less voluminous shirt under...&#060;/p&#062;
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