https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Fri, 15 May 2026 05:32:08 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail/page/2#post-2065007 Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:49:13 +0000 The Cat 2065007@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Lots of interesting and personal perspectives.</p> <p>A few thoughts from me:</p> <p>Suntiger, I recognize the factors you have pointed out regarding contrasting styles at present. And the way I remember the '90s, there was a similar juxtaposition of styles back then.</p> <p>Sal, I too recognize elements of the early princess Diana style in some recent fashion designs.</p> <p>To my eye, La Pedestrienne's style is more gamine than ingenue style.</p> <p>Jenni and Gaylene, I agree that the fashion styles we witnessed and/or wore in our late teens and our twenties might have made a rather lasting influence on the way we view fashion. I also agree that our personal life situation in a certain decade likely has shaped our memories of that decade.</p> <p>Sal and others, I welcome more threads on these subjects. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail/page/2#post-2064949 Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:54:38 +0000 Sal 2064949@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>And sometimes the memories are formed via photos or tv shows too.</p> <p>Maybe I will start a new thread? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail/page/2#post-2064924 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:47:51 +0000 Jenni NZ 2064924@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh that’s so interesting Gaylene. ( Sorry about something of a threadjack Suntiger- I know you related your question to the zeitgeist originally). That’s the thing about the 90s for me too, I was relating to them as a young mother not a free spirit and not a 40+ career focused female either. Even although I still did work professionally it was fairly part-time and not my main focus in that decade.<br /> And I remember in 2004 attending a friend’s 40th ( born in 1964) -she had a hippie theme, and when my parents-in-law came to babysit they looked at our outfits rather quizzically and said “We didn’t dress like that in the 60s”. Which, given that they had 4 young children at that stage-born 1958, 1960, 1962 and 1965- I guess they wouldn’t have! And so the fashion of each decade may indeed relate to what life stage you were in at the time. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064916 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:04:39 +0000 Gaylene 2064916@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Jenni NZ, your statement “the clothes of our maybe teens but certainly 20s look the most “normal” to us” makes total sense to me.</p> <p>I suspect that, for many of us, our late teens and 20s tend to be formative fashion years where we emerge from our “try everything, no matter how outrageous”, experimentalist tendencies of our early and middle teens to find a “look”, or personal style, which works for our particular tastes, budgets, and lifestyles. Staying within that style framework isn’t nostalgia as much as much as it is a sense of fixed thinking about what works for me aesthetically, socially, and emotionally. Moving out of that fixed thinking isn’t easy. </p> <p>I’m also fascinated by the wide variations in how people remember the fashions of different decades. My 90s were a decade of silk blouses, Donna Karan jersey pieces, and Anne Klein suits, not plaid shirts, scrunchies, and slip dresses—in other words, the difference between the fashion world of a teenage girl and a 40+, career-focused female. I guess that’s why, after living through 50 decades of fashion, I have a hard time when I hear people linking particular styles to a decade. It seems to me that every decade I’ve lived through is a mishmash of looks. Each era has its own version of a feminine vs. a more masculinized version of a shirt or a shoe, just like it has its own version of a maximal vs. minimal look, or an ingenue vs. powerful look. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064903 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:20:53 +0000 Jenni NZ 2064903@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Fair enough Toban. For me it was extremely easy to dress in the 80s- I was petite of course but also very slim at that age and lots of stuff fit right off the rack. I agree that would colour how you feel about it.<br /> In the 90s I didn’t like what I called “old lady shops” which you kindly call stores that cater to a “more mature client”. I was in my 30s then but now I am their demographic! Funny how times change. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064901 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:09:09 +0000 Toban 2064901@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I’m with suntiger in not being particularly nostalgic for earlier decade fashions. The reprise of the 80s and 90s remind me of how difficult developing my style as a teenager and college student was... especially challenging as being a heavy petite who struggled to find clothes that fit. The petite options were generally at stores that catered to a more mature client. Ugh. Bad memories. I am enjoying this era of doing your own thing and more inclusivity in sizes, even if relegated to online purchases. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064894 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:30:16 +0000 Angie 2064894@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Jenni NZ !</b></p> <p><b><i></i></b><i>"Ah Suntiger you’re the opposite to me, I drown in nostalgia for previous decades every day!"&nbsp;<br /></i><br />HIGH FIVE. I am EXTREMELY nostalgic for fashion of previous decades. &nbsp;I get you </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064892 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:25:11 +0000 Jenni NZ 2064892@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well Liesbeth I wonder if that’s the case for most of us, that the clothes of our maybe teens but certainly 20s look the most “normal” to us. See I completely missed most of the music and the clothes of the 90s- too busy with the young family and honestly started paying attention more to the music my children liked- like the Spice Girls! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064766 Sat, 28 Sep 2019 10:18:24 +0000 Liesbeth 2064766@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh jenni, I laughed at your perspective! Though I find it strangely true that the nineties were also a pretty dark decade, with stark minimalism, angry grunge and a lot of angst in mainstream culture (think of music video's from back then with their heavy symbolism, and radiohead).<br /> Somehow though, the nineties were my formative years and it seems as though this is why nineties style clothes may just seem like the most 'regular' clothes possible for me, outside of trends (though of course that is not really the case). Of course I'm now talking about what people on Friends wore e.g.<br /> Sorry suntiger, not really on topic, your question is interesting but I'm not capable of adding anything intelligent right now. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064657 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:11:59 +0000 Jenni NZ 2064657@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ah Suntiger you’re the opposite to me, I drown in nostalgia for previous decades every day!<br /> I think the 80s, which started when I was 19, just so perfectly suited my personality with the bright colours and all the possibilities of my life at the time, that anything that reminds me of them pushes my buttons. That was the decade of graduating, meeting and marrying DH, and travelling. For me the 90s was so much more responsible and somber, having our 3 children and our both buying our businesses that we still own now, so I kind of missed out on any fashion of that decade except for leggings.<br /> I have a fond memory of a particular sort of romantic puffy sleeved white blouse which I wore with a deep red corduroy skirt many times, the first time to a party with a new boyfriend. Ahhh, happy sigh.<br /> Maybe a romantic look and a pointy shoe doesn’t look as good on me now as it did then, but I might ignore that annoying fact! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064625 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:50:57 +0000 Anonymous 2064625@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thanks all-had a long day yesterday and finally getting back to this. Definitely no nostalgia from me for any prior decades! I see a lot of media from that time period being rehashed/updated too-like Star Wars. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064439 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:54:26 +0000 Jaime 2064439@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I am not interested in projecting an ingenue look at all, but will absolutely wear elements of that style (puffy/ruffly/floral). I also like to wear pointy shoes, some leather and am very attracted to 90s minimalism. So maybe retail right now is perfect for me? Most of my 90s clothes are from the 90s though . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064435 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:09:37 +0000 Style Fan 2064435@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Interesting observation.&nbsp; Fashion is less rigid and there is more to choose from.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064387 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:50:07 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2064387@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>90s clothes, fine by me, as long as there are more pants choices than MC Hammer Harem pants (the only popular clothing item i clearly remember from a very busy, fun time of my life). </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064386 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:28:52 +0000 Anonymous 2064386@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, you're right . That shows you how little those decades mattered to me &nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064383 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:26:13 +0000 Angie 2064383@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>There IS '70s in the mix, especially since the '90s were based on the '70s.</p> <p><b>Lisa P</b>, pointy toes are '80s :)</p> <p><b>Rachy,</b> dead right!&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064377 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:13:58 +0000 Anonymous 2064377@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>That is a very interesting observation , but I can't really figure out if it means anything to me or not - in terms of dressing. &nbsp;The 80's and 90's, when I would have been in my 20's and 30's , never struck me as a personally meaningful time for fashion . Or course I bought clothes for work as much as anyone else did, and worked a lot in the fashion industry in those decades, but I would think I was more influenced by the 70's than anything . &nbsp;I suppose the minimalist 90's brought me leather, pointy toes , sleek blazers etc. &nbsp;.....</p> <p>As for why it's all at retail now? &nbsp;I think retail is a really tough gig, and the more there is to choose from, the better the population is served. &nbsp;I can distinctly remember years where there would be nothing I wanted to buy , where the colours and silhouettes were wrong....Now - this is les of an issue &nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064370 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 19:54:23 +0000 Sal 2064370@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I do see what you mean - I also see the New Romantic - early Princess Diana look being mixed in. </p> <p>I struggle to dive heavily into 80s and 90s looks and am more drawn to 70s. But I take inspiration from both I am sure even if I don’t realise it.</p> <p>Actually the ingenue and the tough stomps looks are two that I have never liked on me - love them on others. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064350 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:42:35 +0000 LaPed 2064350@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Also, I'll say I'm actually getting a strong late-70s New Romantic vibe from a lot of what's on offer. It's just a total smorgasbord out there! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064349 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:39:15 +0000 LaPed 2064349@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you FI. I never think of myself that way, but it's nice to know I have an ingenue element that comes across. :)</p> <p>I think part of the juxtaposition phenomenon might also be the conflation of different eras on the part of the younger set to whom these trends are marketed. </p> <p>I remember this from when I was a tween and "hippie" everything was trending; it was a total mash-up of 60s and 70s styles. My baby boomer parents were always trying to set me straight as to which was which, and deepen my understanding of what was actually "in" when they were young (which of course was of very little importance to me!). </p> <p>I wouldn't be surprised if today's kids think similarly about the 80s/90s. That is, they see the continuity and similarities rather than the finer distinctions, because they're taking it in retrospectively rather than living it. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064320 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:03:25 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2064320@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Words I came across looking up "ingenue": artless, unworldly,&nbsp;endearingly wholesome and innocent. La Ped does this extremely well.</p> <p></p> <p>For me, that word doesn't conjure up bows or frills or anything else trying to look feminine and "girly". I think of it as more natural, a girl/young woman who isn't aware of the entire realm of physical (sexual) appeal, and therefore doesn't play up her considerable charms (which shine through, perhaps stronger for not having been forced), sort of a "girl next door". </p> <p></p> <p>I know it's a kibbe type, have no idea how it's used there.<br /> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064314 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:36:27 +0000 rachylou 2064314@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh wait... the flip side of feminism... hmm hmm hmm. Or maybe the evolution of it, from Dworkinism to Me Too. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064313 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:34:29 +0000 rachylou 2064313@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>No, Angie. Everything good about the 90s really came from the 80s. Hahaha! But seriously, my problem with the 90s is I feel like nothing really happened.</p> <p>Anyways, very very VERY interesting observation, suntiger. Must ponder this. My initial thoughts are that both of these are a) very feminine, in different ways and b) maximal. The antithesis of the sleek minimalism of... masculine high tech and industrial style? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064309 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:51:36 +0000 Anonymous 2064309@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>The flip side of feminism! Love that </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064308 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:50:22 +0000 Angie 2064308@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Those soft ditsy floral print dresses and skirts were very ‘90s. Short and long. Flared, bias cut, a-line. Tempered by a tough black support act. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064305 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:36:38 +0000 cindysmith 2064305@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Now that you mention it, yes. I see the polarization, and it is so good to finally see something for everybody. I know that we often see people rejoicing that something that's in their wheelhouse is everywhere, and others bemoaning the lack of options that appeal to their personal style. It's amazing that there's a wide array of options for both sides of strong femininity: the florals and poofy sleeves for the traditional idea of feminine, and the utility look for the flip side of feminism.</p> <p>I'm loving that nobody has to fit a particular mold this season. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064300 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:25:58 +0000 Anonymous 2064300@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>To me Ingenue is girly young- small florals, bows, short fit and flares, and the like. I guess that was around in the 80s- but I think of it as 50s too. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064297 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:15:44 +0000 Angie 2064297@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I don't see more ingenue, personally. I see stronger '90s influences tempering and marrying the '80s. It's the perfect storm!&nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064293 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:08:08 +0000 Anonymous 2064293@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>There seems a lot more of the ingenue to me though than before, or maybe I'm just more aware of it now. The harder elements yes, the pointy 80s and stompy 90s shoes. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/thoughts-on-juxtaposition-at-retail#post-2064288 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:02:42 +0000 Angie 2064288@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>YES, <b>Suntiger.&nbsp;</b></p> <p>That's exactly what I mentioned in my trend reports -<i> because</i> of the strong influence of BOTH the '80s and the '90s. Very opposing decades in terms of "it" silhouettes, hair, make-up, vibe, style.&nbsp;</p> <p>I think it's GREAT! Something for everyone AND it's fab to combine the strengths of both decades :)</p> <p>Personally, I much preferred the '80s to the '90s. But the '90s weren't all bad.....</p> </p>