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YouLookFab Forum » Topic: The risk of K/R threads https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Tue, 28 Apr 2026 08:55:29 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php cheryle (Dianthus) on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1045227 Sat, 05 Oct 2013 01:09:52 +0000 cheryle (Dianthus) 1045227@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I think a few people have danced around the issue but not been explicit.  Is it that those who are not enamored of a look are keeping the feedback to themselves or providing false praise when a piece is posted in a WIW as opposed to a K/R?  Is there another explanation for a piece getting panned in the K/R and then praised in a WIW? I know I have often kept silent when I do not find an outfit flattering on the wearer as I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but perhaps in a K/R, the barrier is lifted and people feel more free to post with honesty.  Is it even  reasonable or realistic to expect everyone to love a look.  We all have different issues, sugar looks (sorry Una but I could not recall the right phrase)  and poisoned eye items.  Mine is proportion.  Shannon, I have found this post quite enlightening and thank you for starting it. annagybe on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1045131 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 23:07:19 +0000 annagybe 1045131@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ You know also, sometimes people just look at the pictures without reading the text. That has happened sometimes in my posts. Transcona Shannon on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1045120 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 22:50:34 +0000 Transcona Shannon 1045120@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ You know I think you're all WONDERFUL don't you? :) Thank you for your wisdom and your understanding - always! cciele on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1045010 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:05:58 +0000 cciele 1045010@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I think many people already post "Look what I've got" threads and have prefaced them with, "This is not a K/R." So really, the point is to make clear what your intent of the post is -- feedback? styling suggestions? share my joy? Shannon (FYI, I like the jacket on you -- haven't had a chance to respond in your other thread) -- I do think it's human nature to obsess over certain things, whether it's fashion, food, housekeeping, hobbies, etc. I think some people enjoy the analysis and are happy to take the time to do so, but when it becomes a chore and drags you down, perhaps one should re-evaluate what the best use of time and energy is.  Echo on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044993 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:47:54 +0000 Echo 1044993@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I understand why you posted the K/R, Shannon, and you should not feel bad. But the forum is very supportive when someone posts an item they love, too. So next time if you post it as something you love and are keeping, you can still keep the group updated on an item you've been stalking, but not open it up for question. And this may be a really bad way to shop, but I keep things that make me happy. I have looked in the mirror and tried to pick apart this and that and you know what? If I look, I can ALWAYS find something I'm not happy with. The fact is that I am dissatisfied with my middle, and while I am working to change that, clothes cannot make body and figure issues go away. There is always something I can find to pick apart. So instead, when an item makes me internally squeal with excitement, I buy it. I think that's how you felt about the jacket. It made you happy. But like me (and anyone, really), if you look hard enough you could find something to overthink. No item is perfect; no such thing exists. So be happy when an item makes you happy, post it here, and we will happily share in your joy! Nicole D on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044985 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:30:18 +0000 Nicole D 1044985@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ But.....I do find that people are more likely to post constructive criticism if it's a K/R.  Because you are open to getting rid of the item if you get some insight that you didn't have before.  So, indeed, depends what you are looking for.  How about instead of K/R, we call it :ILTSEIYDLIPOAFIIAAOJKQ? "I love this so even if you don't like it, point out any fabness in it at all or just keep quiet"  Angie on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044982 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:28:37 +0000 Angie 1044982@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ K, FWIW,  I did like your favourite taupe sweater. I simply preferred the Theory. I also suggested that you keep both, which I wouldn't have if I didn't think you would love both too. And I'll have an earl grey tea instead of a latte - with a huge hug. I miss you. Come back up to Seattle. As for the cropped pants, I have a stormy relationship with them, and I appreciate that you remember that - just as I appreciate your thoughts here.  Shannon, no offense taken.  FlorenceFearne on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044981 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:27:57 +0000 FlorenceFearne 1044981@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I am another YLF-er that's glad you posted this. I've gotten some new items that I love, and I'd love to get feedback on, but not necessarily in the K/R vein. I have questions like: how do I style these? are these purchases consistent with each other, and with my style in general? what additional items, if any, do you think would compliment these pieces? can I wear these to work? etc. So maybe we need  "look what I got" posts, if we truly love the item, and returning it is not an option.  I definitely know what you mean about becoming hypercritical, too. It's easy to fall into a trap of wondering if something looks "good enough" for a WIW, or if it's fashion forward enough, or whatever. But the fact is that you buy clothing foremost for YOU, and for your life. And if you love something, YOU have to wear it. Sometimes "good enough" is good enough. If you're freezing to death in the winter, you can buy an inexpensive sweater that's just OK. And it'll keep you warm unless/until you find the perfect thing later on. :)  Janet on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044979 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:24:09 +0000 Janet 1044979@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ MaryK has noticed something I have too -- sometimes an item that has gotten mixed reviews in a K/R post for me ends up getting raves when I finally post it in a WIW and it's fully styled and I'm committed to it. Just another reminder of how personal style really is. Style by committee doesn't work. Going with your gut usually does. Von on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044973 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:17:21 +0000 Von 1044973@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I think it's in the nature of some people to play the keep/return game anyway though. I have been doing it for YEARS. I buy something, bring it home, analyze the HECK out of it...and then decide - usually, I'm a returner...unless someone makes me decide otherwise.  I mean I bought the item, I'd like to have it, but only if it looks good. If you're like me, there are two other people at my house, one is my husband, and the other is my 8yo son. Neither are good for bouncing outfit details off of.  I haven't done a K/R thread yet, but I think having other like minded people analyze and do the thinking for you is good.  I know with myself, I'm often too *close* to the item. I love it, I've seen it look fab on people, I know just how I want to wear it and what with...but the final piece of "Does it look GREAT on me" is the one thing that's hard to answer. But some things, yes, I keep them anyway. I'm going to go ahead and put my Dansko clogs in that stack. They look like clogs. Ugly navy clogs, but with boot cut jeans and thick socks...oooh, I can shop all day in those! Every single person I asked vetoed the Danskos, my feet DO look like they've been entombed in a stone block...but I kept them because they make me feel good, in the end. AND they are apparently indestructible :). Amy on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044970 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:15:29 +0000 Amy 1044970@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Shannon, you haven't stuck your foot in your mouth. Your question is a good one and I've found the ensuing discussion enlightening. I don't think I can add much to what's already been said...I'm just glad to have been able to follow along and learn. K. Period. on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044967 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:09:51 +0000 K. Period. 1044967@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Okay, so first I have to do a happy dance because Angie just said your jacket was killer, which was exactly what I'd felt about it and I knew you felt in your heart about it. And it is killer!  Of course, I'm my total lawyer self, so when I said I loved it, I had to reserve my wiggle room out, which makes me a total chicken, but we'll call it even and just say that I'm doing a happy Chicken Dance!  I love your jacket, and I love that you love it.  As for the k/r, it is really easy to post as a k/r when you are just really wanting everyone to celebrate your awesome find.  I think it is also totally understandable to want to find out whether everyone else loves it just as much as you do. And it is normal to be a little deflated when not everyone does. (But kinda crazy too, because getting 100% consensus? Never happens.)  The wanting/getting affirmation side of the forum is a natural part of it and something that all of us have to make peace with and set our boundaries regarding.   At the end of the day, YOU have to decide whether anything you buy will bring you happiness and determine whether you can chalk some of the negative comments up to personal taste.  I do that a lot, the chalking bit.  My recent WIW with the cropped trousers, not overwhelmingly popular.  I loved it. Una has a tainted eye for crops, so avoided comment; Anna liked it even better than my polished second outfit; Angie was silent about it, but loved my second outfit. All fine!  Or my taupe sweater showdown post.  (Speaking of reminding us of our style persona!) Angie doesn't love my favorite. But I do and my husband does and so do a lot of others.  So, that's okay. Angie isn't going to begrudge any of us for loving something irrationally.  As long as it brings us happiness, she and everyone else on the forum will be positive about it.  I just assume that Angie is trying to make sure that we go into something like that with open eyes and not just leaping into a purchase that we regret.  And I'm pretty sure that she'll just shrug or tsks or whatever lovely thing she does and says "Then go enjoy it!"  What more could we ask?!? So, I'm returning the beige Theory sweater that brings me no joy, even though it is an Angie favorite. I'm keeping the beige sweater Angie thinks doesn't hold a candle to the Theory one. And I'm buying Angie a latte next spring when it turns out that she was right and I made the wrong choice. Or not. Either way, it is all good.   One other thought, this week or last, Ruth posted about PPL for boots shown with straight leg pants that she thought were too short.  By posting, she found out that her aversion was a matter more of personal taste (personal PPL) than of technical incorrectness.  And I think there's room for that.  I actually think that that was what you were seeing a lot in the critiques of your jacket.  People's own personal preferences and attempts to identify anything that is not to their taste with the fit so that you could go into it with open eyes.  But those things don't matter to you, and that's okay.  Would you flinch if something was dry clean only? Nope? Me either. But for many people it would be a big consideration in whether something was a good purchase. So, relegate those negative comments to that category and go enjoy your beautiful jacket!    (ETA: WOW was that a long post! Bottom line, love that jacket!)  rae on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044953 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:40:11 +0000 rae 1044953@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Yep, PPP distinctly excludes the word perfect.  There is no perfect jacket, purse, or shoe - just like there is no Perfect Man. If we waited for perfect, we'd be nekkid and alone. I don't think the point is to obsess over every thread and ripple in fabric but to not ignore the feeling that something is a little bit off and settle for what you know deep down is not right. catgirl on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044946 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:33:49 +0000 catgirl 1044946@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Shannon, everything has been said so I will just ditto. Remember my Burberry coat? Got lots of mixed reviews but I loved and love it. That said, there are many times I've loved an item beyond belief only to regret it later. The Uggs are a possible example of that. I love them but I feel it blinds me to the possible issues with them. My sugar eye is my downfall, especially when I see something look crazy-fab on someone else (like the Uggs!). I have made the mistake of posting a K/R on something only because I am certain it's perfect and am fishing for compliments only to get mixed reviews. Those are the items I no longer post as K/R. If my intent is to keep no matter what, then why ask to have my bubble burst? It's a process! AviaMariah on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044941 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:29:16 +0000 AviaMariah 1044941@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Well I thought it stood for perfect too.  :)   Neel on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044939 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:28:32 +0000 Neel 1044939@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ If you love it you should keep it and wear it!  I also observe that I tend to go shopping alone (never with DH or even a trusted friend!) mainly because I cannot deal with people interfering with my choice!  If I really like something I just buy it!  And if I have doubts about something, or how I would style it .... I just don't buy it!  Makes life so much easier! As about compromising a bit on the fit if I really like an item ..... I have even gone as far as buying sandals a size smaller just because I loved them and they didn't have my size!!!  I know its crazy!  But a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do Transcona Shannon on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044938 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:26:14 +0000 Transcona Shannon 1044938@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Oh my goodness...I feel like a FOOL! I honestly thought one of the "P"s in PPP stood for Perfect. "Picky, Patient and Practical" - well that is a bit different from perfect, isn't it? Anyway - I'm going to just shut up now 'cause I feel like the more I discuss the issue, the more I stick my foot in my mouth. Suz on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads/page/2#post-1044933 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:12:26 +0000 Suz 1044933@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I am with Ceit here. PPP doesn't doesn't stand for "perfect." And I'm not looking for some abstract ideal of perfection. I'm looking for: Does this fit well, suit me, move me forward in my style goals, and work well for my lifestyle and climate.  A K/R post might:  <ul> <li>illuminate a fit issue I had not noticed but that matters to me</li> <li>help cure me of a "sugar eye" for an item that may not suit me as well as I hope</li> <li>help cure me of a poison eye for something that I only imagine doesn't work on me</li> <li>remind me of my style goals and style persona</li> <li>keep me on the straight and narrow with respect to my own stated wardrobe planning goals or my budget -- or inspire me to re-evaluate those goals</li> <li>remind me that I only got 2 wears out of the fancy dress I bought last winter</li> <li>remind me that I wore skirts 4 days a week last summer so not to worry about whether there's a place for a summer skirt in the closet</li> <li>remind me that - ugh - I do not live in California and really, how many sandals do I need? </li> </ul> So, it's not about perfect. It's about figuring out what I value in conversation with others whose opinions I trust. That doesn't mean I have to agree with everyone. But if I didn't think the forum's thoughts would be useful, I wouldn't post it.  Anyway, of course it's reasonable to compromise! Unless our clothes are designed and made for us, we absolutely have to! But another value of the K/R type thread is that it helps us all decide in what areas we, personally, are willing and able to compromise. For one person, choosing the black jacket instead of the blue would be a reasonable compromise. For another, that would be sacrilege. For one person, the round toed bootie that's comfortable is a good compromise for the lusted after pointy toed version that hurts. For somebody else it might be how fashion forward -- or not -- a particular outfit is.  Thinking of my BR suit situation. Many loved the jacket; others suggested it was not fashion forward enough. And me? I honestly can't decide. A part of me just loves it. But maybe I love it because it is a suit and it fits, not because it is THE suit. So I need to do some comparison. Again -- it's not about looking for perfect. It's about finding what's best.  Sylvie on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044929 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:00:35 +0000 Sylvie 1044929@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I think you made the right decision. I've returned stuff the forum has enthusiastically loved because it just didn't work for me in person. I've bought clothes and never shown it to the forum (ooh, secret clothes) And sometimes I do post K/R's. :) We overthink purchases sometimes.  This is supposed to be fun.  Sometimes I feel like putting a lot of energy into my wardrobe and sometimes I'm just going to coast. Diana on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044913 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:43:19 +0000 Diana 1044913@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I generally don't post K/R for things I am absolutely positively in love with and that fit right into my wardrobe/style.  I DO post them for: -things I'm unsure about, either in terms of styling or fit.  I find that even if I don't always listen to people's advice I gain a lot of clarity by going through the process of styling, taking photos, asking questions and getting feedback.  This was the case with the BR suit.  You'll notice I never really asked for K/R advice about the pants, even though they were obviously in the pictures as well, since I knew I loved them and would keep them regardless.  -things that are far out of my comfort zone.  (Like the tube skirt).  Again, the process of doing the K/R post often helps me figure out how to style something to make it more me. -things that I mostly love but have some weird niggling and most likely neurotic doubt about.  (Like the AS bubble skirt, which I love but needed reassurance that it did not swallow me up.)  -really big ticket items.  Because I don't want to make an expensive mistake. -things that I have some kind of emotional investment in.  For example, this includes things I've wanted for a long time and built up in my head.  I worry that I've wanted something for so long that I have given up on PPP, or that I've built it up so much in my mind that I'm inventing imperfections.  (Like the gold zipper boots).  There are also certain types of advice that I tend to ignore.  For example, a lot of times I ignore the "shorten your sleeves" advice because I like my sleeves to be slightly too long, and I have poison eye for bracelet sleeves.  I also tend to ignore "that pattern looks like my grandma's couch" because I know what I like when it comes to florals and yes, that includes grandma's couch prints.  =P  You get the idea... Anonymous on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044904 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:35:01 +0000 Anonymous 1044904@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ And to complicate things, Shannon, perfect isn't a single concept either -- everyone has a different idea of what perfect means. But PPP isn't involving perfect, is it? It's Patient, Picky, and Practical. I see that as not requiring something to be some abstract ideal of perfect. Sarah A on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044902 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:32:29 +0000 Sarah A 1044902@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Yes, this PPP versus the real world avaialbility/practically is a conundrum I have been having around shoes for over a year now. I think at some point X has to be good enough, even if I dont think the item possesses everything I would like for my imaginary lifestyle and imaginary feet, or I will drive myself crazy. Anonymous on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044901 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:31:47 +0000 Anonymous 1044901@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Gosh, you read my mind but you articulate what I feel so much better than I ever could.  Transcona Shannon on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044898 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:26:36 +0000 Transcona Shannon 1044898@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I feel like I kinda need to dig myself out of a hole here...I realize I made an error in judgement in posting the jacket as a K/R when I obviously wanted to keep it. My apologies for misleading anyone. I'm interested in the broader discussion of reaching perfection with an item of clothing - not in relation to the Lanai jacket, but in general. I think there are times when an item is honestly "good enough" and that PPP can perhaps still encompass that. Angie, I meant no offense regarding your PPP guideline :) When you have a difficult figure to fit and have been wanting/needing a particular item for some time, is it reasonable to make small compromises in perfection? Are there times when perfection cannot realistically be obtained in an item and therefore "good enough" is the best you're going to do in which case you buy, enjoy and move forward? MsMary on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044895 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:16:12 +0000 MsMary 1044895@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I think you are spot on, Shannon! I almost never post keep or returns because in my view, the only opinion that really matters is mine! And I absolutely think that if the happiness factor is sky high, that should be the end of the discussion. Editing to observe that often, people get negative responses to keep or return posts, and then very positive responses when they wear the items in a WIW post. Interesting... rae on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044887 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:58:52 +0000 rae 1044887@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I had to learn this the hard way, too, Shannon. And I think I got way pouty about it, so you are ahead of the game! There were some items I loved in person and should not have asked K/R on. And I most certainly did not ask about my new Ugg boots, especially since I know there are a lot of strong opinions on boot height and I'd already decided I liked the height just fine.  I still do like a K/R thread, though. Sometimes I still go against the grain, but in my eyes that just shows how strong the love is... it can withstand all the naysaying in the world! lol And then sometimes all the love in the world cannot dispel my doubts. The vote isn't the final answer, but it can be good to have the info at hand. Sona on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044872 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:28:44 +0000 Sona 1044872@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ There is such a  thing as a happy medium isn't there TS? My problem is I never post K/R 's on items I am unsure about only to keep and then consign unworn a few months later. I think I need to post more K/R's and you need a hiatus from them for a while. Your introspection is well worth it as you found. I still 'suffer' from wanting to own everything Angie has in her closet and have to keep reminding myself that a guru illumes our own path towards salvation or sartotial salvation as the case maybe but we need to find the way ourselves. Sorry if I sound like a therapist. Peri on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044870 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:26:52 +0000 Peri 1044870@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Your husband's comment reminded me of what my mother used to say. "Anyone who can see that is standing too close." Of course she meant as a warning about boys, so I would always answer "anyone who is standing that close better not be thinking about my (fill in the blank clothes concern). I never post K/R because if I have one fashion talent it is knowing immediately when I like or don't like something. If I don't like it, no one can convince me to wear it. That one time I posted about the CM jacket, it might have seemed like a K/R, but it was definitely an "I don't like this print on me, help me figure out what I would like better". No matter how many people said it looked good, (Angie was one) there was no chance of me keeping it because I knew I wasn't happy. And if I love something, I don't have doubts about it either. My doubts are about the things I used to love and now worry are dated. I can't see past the old love and want an objective opinion. Anyway, I agree...if you love it, keep it. No need to worry too much. Sara L. on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044845 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:06:43 +0000 Sara L. 1044845@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I agree with you!  Clothing in real life is much different than a static picture.  I only post K/R threads on items I'm unsure about.  If I love it or loathe it, I don't post.  Which means I actually post very few K/R's because usually I can tell right away if I like or don't like something.  I also don't respond to a lot of K/R posts even though I usually read them - I just can't tell sometimes in a photo how the item actually fits.  When I shop in real life I have more definite opinions than when looking at a photo online. Transcona Shannon on "The risk of K/R threads" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-risk-of-kr-threads#post-1044844 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:06:19 +0000 Transcona Shannon 1044844@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Well alrighty then - I will not post K/R threads for an item I'm smitten with. I guess that's unfair to everyone. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers :) Thanks for chiming in Angie - much appreciated.