https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Thu, 09 Apr 2026 14:14:54 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307268 Thu, 09 Feb 2023 00:35:51 +0000 Anonymous 2307268@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>No wonder I always had trouble with ON pants! Ha to the medium-large drink thing. Happened to me today when I asked for a small latte. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307266 Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:56:48 +0000 Chris987 2307266@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yup, the struggle is real. Thanks for all the commiseration. :-)&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307234 Wed, 08 Feb 2023 19:58:32 +0000 Style Fan 2307234@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>It is very frustrating.&nbsp; I also find that how the jeans fit me (baggy, snug) changes the rise.&nbsp; This came up on another thread.&nbsp; The rise on my C of H jeans is longer than my Everlane jeans, but the Everlane jeans are higher on me.&nbsp; Adds to the confusion.<br />I would instead try on jeans in person, but that isn't possible. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307199 Wed, 08 Feb 2023 17:26:42 +0000 RobinF 2307199@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I agree and it seems like most descriptions don't include the rise measurement. Very frustrating. I have more luck with Poshmark because at least then I can ask what the rise measurement is.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307168 Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:13:56 +0000 Janet 2307168@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yep, this is all true. It doesn't help that stock photos feature models who are all 5'10"+, most of them a size 2 or 4 and with no discernable curves in their bodies. I have a very hard time visualizing how jeans may look on my body from looking at these photos.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307096 Wed, 08 Feb 2023 03:10:03 +0000 Jaime 2307096@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, descriptions are just meaningless and pictures are problematic too. Real measurements please! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307041 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 22:22:57 +0000 April 2307041@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I like your strategy too. When I see 11 inches labeled as "high rise", I do start to lose it a bit.<br /> Ok ok ladies, let's get in formation... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307018 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 19:26:53 +0000 Chris987 2307018@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Totally agree <b>Angie!</b> I've decided to try to roll with it and not be annoyed ... and definitely the goal posts have shifted. Yup the skinny vs straight vs whatever has also shifted.&nbsp;</p> <p>Yes, <b>lyn67</b> measurements posted on web sites are sometimes just wrong! </p> <p><b>slim cat,</b> I too try to get a sense of how something's going to fit by looking&nbsp;at the model. But it's no substitute for real measurements, even when they&nbsp;do give the height of the model. </p> <p><b>Suz </b>you are right, sometimes they say what size they measured on, somtimes they do not. You are right about how things will&nbsp;probably work at say Talbots vs. Zara. </p> <p><b>kkards</b> that's funny ... can't have a medium if you don't have a small. I have never&nbsp;tried to learn the "cool names" for coffee sizes, I just ask to see the size of the&nbsp;cups and decide which one I want :-)&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Sal</b>, yep it's not easy! </p> <p><b>ljp</b> - right, that is such a pain, and I think that's what's also going on with <br />ON rise sizing. I suppose if you call customer support the might know the answer but they might have no clue.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307014 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 19:10:28 +0000 LJP 2307014@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>What is bugging me with Gap , ON and BR is the renaming of styles that’s going on ! I have a pair of Gap Cigarette jeans that are only 2 yrs old and that I’d like to reorder . But no . Apparently we don’t use the word “ cigarette “ now so it’s called something else - but there’s no way to know what is what . Same with the straight leg/ skinny / fit names . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307013 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:31:29 +0000 Sal 2307013@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>It is crazy! Pleased you have worked out what fits you. Pants and jeans shopping online is hard. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307007 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:12:03 +0000 kkards 2307007@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>it's like the restaurants that have 2 sizes of drinks...medium and large....drives me crazy...you can't have a medium if you don't have a small...<br />sorry, yes i get it, its maddening if you are shopping on line and try to weed thru the descriptions and the pictures to make intelligent decisions. on the other hand, its hard for retailers that carry many brands to get all of the information from each vendor. retailers like Old Navy, Talbots etc that manufacture and sell their own product will have all that information already&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2307002 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 17:46:13 +0000 Suz 2307002@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>It's for sure a challenge, Chris. Frustrating. Measurements are key.&nbsp;</p> <p>I think sometimes retailers also neglect to mention which SIZE they measured on. This affects the rise, for sure! The rise on size 2 may be a different measurement than the rise on size 16.&nbsp;</p> <p>FWIW, my Liverpool pants (not jeans) have a rise of 9".&nbsp;</p> <p>It's helped me a bit to consider each retailer's main (or maybe imagined) clientele and the fit models they use. Because that also affects things.&nbsp;</p> <p>The typical Talbots shopper, for example, is *probably* older and less trendy than the typical Zara shopper. The fit model will differ. Waists will be wider. Shifts in style will be slower to happen. And when shifts happen, they will be more moderate, so "high" rise will be lower (probably) than at Zara (if high rise is the trend).&nbsp;</p> <p>Old Navy caters to a wide market and all kinds of budget minded people will shop there, but they are known for their relatively inclusive and generous sizing, and they are aiming to appeal to as broad a swathe of middle America as they can. Their current "high" rise of 9 to 9.5 inches would probably be a "mid" rise for some retailers. But it is a rise height that works more broadly across a range of body types and needs than the higher 11 or 12 inch rises.&nbsp;</p> <p>And on me, it's almost a low rise! :)&nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2306996 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 17:40:07 +0000 slim cat 2306996@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes - I was having same maddening feeling reading and comparing crazy descriptions on different websites. In many cases the pictures were some help - "low rise" that looked like high rise hanging on the hips - lol. I'm going to check ON for actual collection and rises - just to be sure . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2306994 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 17:23:27 +0000 lyn67 2306994@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, this is real madness and very disturbing...I too hate shopping for Jeans/pants exactly for this reason!:-(&nbsp;</p> <p>ETA: --it happened to me more than a few times&nbsp; that the measurements even if stated on the webpage were still not true!!!</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2306987 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 17:01:30 +0000 Angie 2306987@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>:)</p> <p>Good call! I like your strategy.&nbsp;</p> <p>And yes, industry descriptions are all over the place. It's highly annoying! Having accurate rise and inseam measurements is ALWAYS helpful! Every online retailer should provide that info.</p> <p>8.5 inches is thought of low rise these days - on most retail sites. I mentioned that here. Low rise used to mean 6 to 7.5 inches.The goal posts have shifted:</p> <p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://youlookfab.com/2023/01/24/trend-lower-rises/">https://youlookfab.com/2023/01.....wer-rises/</a></p> <p>What I find ridiculous is how skinnies are called straight legs these days. More goal post shifting! The skinnies we wore 15 years ago were wider than what they are calling regular straights today.....</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/the-madness-of-rise-descriptions-for-jeans#post-2306970 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 15:34:14 +0000 Chris987 2306970@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>As I begin a search for new jeans brands/styles, I just have to comment on the sheer insanity of "the rise measurement" in the world of jeans today.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p> I did a search on Nordstrom.com, selecting Liverpool brand and mid rise from&nbsp;the menu. I looked at a few choices and the rises ran from 9.5" to 10". Did&nbsp;the same thing on Zappos, found rise measurements as low as 8" and many that gave NO rise measurement. Somewhere I saw one that was 10.75" ... all allegedly Liverpool mid rise.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>(BTW I found one on Zappos called "non skinny skinny jean" which in the&nbsp;description said "boyfriend style" ... the craziness of style names is another topic ... :-)&nbsp;</p> <p>I bought some Old Navy jeans last week that are going back because they were still too tight after a few hours off wear.&nbsp; ON has a pretty comprehensive jeans fit guide that is very helpful.&nbsp; &nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" href="https://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/info.do?cid=1185579&amp;section=compare-styles&amp;mlink=5050,1,pdp_denim">https://oldnavy.gap.com/browse.....50,1,pdp_d</a><br />BUT, they define mid rise as 8 - 8.5", high rise as 9 - 9.5", and they also have an extra high rise and a higher high rise.&nbsp; This seems like a new system for them.&nbsp; So consistent within the brand, but totally inconsistent with industry norms ... except that there aren't any. :-)&nbsp;</p> <p>I was trying to imagine the meeting inside ON where they decided to make this change. This is just my sarcastic fantasy,&nbsp; I have no knowledge of how things are actually done inside ON. <i>"We have a lot of jeans inventory in what we used to call mid-rise, but now the trend is for high rise so we must adjust to keep market share. We can't afford to get rid of all that inventory so we'll change how it's labeled and call it high rise. The&nbsp;customers will never know&nbsp;the difference".&nbsp; :-)&nbsp;<br /></i><br />So, I've made a rule for myself to deal with all this madness...<b><i> <u>for jeans and pants I look at online, if the rise measurement is not stated in inches and in the rough range of 9" to 10" (which works for me) I will not order them.&nbsp;</u></i></b><i></i> </p>