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			<title>YouLookFab Forum &#187; Topic: Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping</title>
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				<title>Laura (rhubarbgirl) on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 05:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Laura (rhubarbgirl)</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I don't have the link anymore, but recently I read about a fairly new clothing company, selling online, that catered to those that wanted to wear traditionally masculine clothing but had the fit issues of women's bodies - either women who wanted to dress in an androgynous or masculine way, or FTM trans folks who wanted to dress as men. I thought it was a pretty clever niche market and I'd definitely buy something from them if they made high quality tailored stuff that would fit me.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I'm tall enough to wear men's clothes, but way too curvy for most things. The proportions of different parts of the body are just different on men and women - even though obviously every individual person will fall somewhere different on the continuum. My DH, who does have a long torso even for a guy, is 10 inches taller than me and we wear the same inseam length in jeans.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I can wear men's shoes, and I should probably start doing that more again. I've had several pairs of men's Vans, as well as various brands of work boots.
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				<title>CocoLion on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>CocoLion</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I'm with Echo. At 5'4&#034; with curves and small shoulders, I have enough trouble fitting into women's clothes.   A slim not overly tall male without broad shoulders or very muscular arms -- or a tall slim IT woman - will fit unisex clothes best. A bigger guy like my SO, he's not fat but his shoulders are too broad for this type of sizing.
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				<title>Sal on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I have been thinking about a wee bit of shopping in the men's department as the quality can be very good, and the jeans can work well on me.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I think clothing at the moment is very minimal and tending to the unisex - clean lines, looser fits, flat shoes. &#038;nbsp;This trend carries across men's and women's fashion. &#038;nbsp;A few years ago when clothes were more maximal there were more differences.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Whilst I know plenty of women who would be happy to shop in the men's areas I don't know as many men who would shop in the women's. &#038;nbsp;However my 12 (almost 13) &#038;nbsp;lean son who is yet to hit the teenage growth spurt struggles to find clothes to fit him, even XS Men can be too big. &#038;nbsp;So he has women's trainers, athletic spikes, and even a ladies puffer. &#038;nbsp;He knows but does not care.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Anonymous on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Yes, what about fit? Are the size categories staying the same?&#038;nbsp;Or does this mean only one body type (basically, model-shaped)&#038;nbsp;will be properly&#038;nbsp;served? Sounds like a step backwards rather than forwards.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Echo on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Echo</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I shopped for jeans in the men's department when I was in my early 20's, but I also agree with rachylou. The average breadth of a man's shoulders, the lack of a chest, the narrower hips and (generally) taller stature make many pieces of clothing unwearable by women unless they want oversized, shapeless pieces. I DO agree that men's clothing is often thicker and seemingly better made, but that doesn't overcome the fit issues for women who aren't rectangular or apple/IT shapes. Additionally, many times men's pieces aren't made small enough for women, adding to the shapeless situation.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;This is an interesting experiment, but when I look at DH (6' 8&#034; with HUGE shoulders and &#038;nbsp;the stereotypical man's shape with skinny legs and no hips/bum) and at me (5' 2&#034; with an hourglass and noticeably thicker/shapelier legs, if much, much shorter!), I just can't see this working very well.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>SuzyQ2 on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I have always shopped the menswear department. I prefer the jeans, no spandex and deeper front pockets. I can always find a sweater or two with long sleeves, not the 3/4 length found in the women's section. The T-shirts are thicker so I don't need the addition of a cami or tank in the hot summer months. It's definitely a roomier style and not for everyone but it works for me. 
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				<title>rachylou on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;That's interesting. Men's and women's bodies really do have some gross differences; so when it comes to tailored clothing, that's not a cross-over situation.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;On the other hand, I'm reminded of this story I once read: This guy travels back in time to save the princess asleep in a forest, waiting for true love's kiss. Only problem - clothes can't travel with. He arrives, she's awakened, and then she promptly refuses to lend him her scarf to cover up - because &#034;no real man would wear women's clothing.&#034; And he's all - &#034;It's a square piece of cloth already! And it's freeking cold!&#034;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Hahaha!  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-biggrin icon-emoticon-biggrin "></span> 
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				<title>K.M. on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;This is so cool! I wish I could go there and see it in person, too bad it's such a short-term project. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I know that this wouldn't work for all clothing pieces and body types, but it's good to have as yet another option. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I remember meanswear being all the rage in the late 80s and early 90s. At least in Brazil: oversized v-neck sweaters; shirts; vests; oxford shoes; and also silk men's underwear (boxers) worn as dressy shorts. Some people got those in the men's department, but soon clothes retailers started to make female versions. I seem to remember women wearing ties too? 
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				<title>Janet on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Yep, Thistle -- I have a friend (female) who loves to shop in the men's department for sweaters, big shirts, etc., and the quality is often far superior. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I think this is an interesting project for examining gender and stereotypes, and I hope to see future coverage in how it is received by the public. I'd love to see it in person.
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				<title>Thistle on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Thistle</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Interesting.&#038;nbsp; For me, the purchase of men's clothing was less about gender nreutrality, and more about quality and functionality.
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				<title>Janet on "Selfridges taking the gender division out of shopping"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Recently there was a thread about shopping in the men's department. I thought this was very interesting. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a href=&#034;http://groundswell.org/gender-fluidity/&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://groundswell.org/gender-fluidity/&#060;/a&#062;
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