https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Wed, 13 May 2026 15:40:54 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757192 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 17:37:02 +0000 Angie 1757192@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thanks to all those who graciously contributed to this thread. I think it has run its course and we are closing it. My apologies to those who found some parts of it upsetting.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757180 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 17:02:43 +0000 rachylou 1757180@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I saw at least part of that ad somewhere.... it was banned? How bizarre. (And what is up with those cardboard and tinfoil Victoria Secret angel wings? Now that embarrasses me!)</p> <p>Hey, listen. When I was 18, my college dorm roommate went pro-African nationalist and changed her name to Namibia ('no thanks, mom'). I asked, in discussing the issues, 'why we couldn't all be American?' That upset her. Because, well, obviously everyone of colour is always only a qualified American - Asian American here myself. It *was* bourgeois of me to ask. Unsympathetic. Unmindful even of self. Notwithstanding that I went to China and not a single person recognized me as being Chinese (which is hilarious). Still, tho, we bridged a gap in our mutual immaturity in having the interchange.</p> <p>Difficult discussions are difficult. I admire YLF for its ground rules of earnesty and the benefit of the doubt. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757176 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 16:51:26 +0000 Traci 1757176@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>+1 here for being offended by the original post and additionally hurt by the lack of compassion or apology when many have graciously shared stories of how comments like those in the original post, and some follow up posts hurt them.</p> <p>I have a friend who often says impact is more important than intent, and I think that's very true here. &nbsp;This thread was hurtful to many people, even if many of those who were hurt pushed through that pain to try to bring an eloquent understanding of WHY it was hurtful.</p> <p>A lack of this sort of post is exactly the thing that has kept me comfortable visiting YLF for so many years. &nbsp;I hope we haven't opened a door to more of this type of discussion here. &nbsp;There are many things that make YLF a special place, but the lack of body shaming is the #1 one that has allowed me to participate here when I would never dare share personal wardrobe pics in other corners of the internet. &nbsp;That safety net, and the ensuing participation from more members of more sizes and body types than I've seen other places, is a salve for so many of us "less thans".&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757161 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 16:01:22 +0000 Toban 1757161@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I have been thinking about this a lot over the last three days. I am outraged by the original post. I truly don't understand why the original posting was not deleted immediately as not being respective of the core philosophy of this site, that is, to dress the body you currently have and to feel good while doing so! Any indication of implying one should feel 'less than' or 'less worthy of feeing good about oneself' because of a poster's perception that to not be thin is simply an 'inaction' or 'laziness' on their parts DOES NOT BELONG. </p> <p>I truly commend the wonderful and thoughtful replies. But they shouldn't have been necessary. And the feelings of offense, anger, and 'less than' by an inappropriate post should not have been invoked as they are counter to what I thought the site's core philosophy was. At this time I'm uncertain whether I can continue on this site because the allowance of this post is counter to a core philosophy of inclusion that I seek. I suspect that there are other quiet lurkers that are similarly dismayed.</p> <p>There have been many tremendous replies. And I also appreciate those that have removed their 'filters' and said that this is inappropriate and that an apology is necessary. </p> <p>I would truly love to see this post disappear from view so that there isn't a constant reminder whenever reopening YLF forums. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757136 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:27:13 +0000 Bennett 1757136@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Lots of you won't like me for losing my filter right now, but give me a moment to call 'em as I see 'em, maybe later I will be able to respond with a more dignified, calm addition towards the 'education' of Alexandra:</p> <p>Yes, Alexandra, you ARE judgemental. Prefacing your comments with the phrase "I'm not being judgemental" does not make the fact that you ARE judgemental disappear. It's a passive-aggressive move that makes the recipient of the your judgement feel confused for being hurt by your narrow window regarding this subject. Anyone feeling hurt by Alexandra, listen up! She DID bring a shallow, judgemental, unenlightened, aggressive-but-perfumed-over opinion she holds of some of us to light. It is sad to have to do so, but also very admirable that many here have been able to step up to the plate with grace and try to expand Alexandria's thinking. I think the ball's in her court now... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757091 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 13:31:06 +0000 Ledonna N. 1757091@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yep Momo I love them. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757077 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 12:44:30 +0000 Momo 1757077@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I do like those ads Ledonna. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757076 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 12:38:22 +0000 Astrid 1757076@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thanks for the info. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/6#post-1757074 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 12:32:49 +0000 Ledonna N. 1757074@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Astrid I really don't have a clue. It is way more decent than Victoria Secret. It came across my Facebook news feed some time ago. I really like it.</p> <p>Yep Americans are like that. I don't know why we are so conservative in some areas and liberal in others. Breast feeding is very controversial. I don't know. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757066 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 12:11:35 +0000 Astrid 1757066@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ledonna, I have absolutely no clue about US TV - why was this banned? There were some things alluded to in the article, but is it true that they banned this but wouldn't have banned the same spot with skinny people? I already noticed how much of an issue breast feeding seems to be (no matter the body) which I don't get as a German. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757065 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:59:59 +0000 Ledonna N. 1757065@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I don't know why I follow this thread well, that a lie yes I do. Because I'm a reader and curious. </p> <p>Lane Bryant hasbsome body confidence commercials that I love. Although from perfect it is an empowering thing to see.</p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;rct=j&#038;url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZ5wpn1QwOmQ&#038;ved=0ahUKEwi-n7aWvdrQAhVJYiYKHfYyA9wQo7QBCCIwAA&#038;usg=AFQjCNFMrrwmbW13qHQdoFcbBwyTCCMtVQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/url?sa=.....BwyTCCMtVQ</a></p> <p>It was actually banned from TV but the message still got out. </p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;rct=j&#038;url=http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/30366/1/why-was-this-plus-size-body-positive-advertisement-banned&#038;ved=0ahUKEwiSpO6EvtrQAhXGLyYKHc-CDDsQo7QBCCQwAQ&#038;usg=AFQjCNFjm43ONYCetXM2LK4XASfeJiV5qQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/url?sa=.....ASfeJiV5qQ</a> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757060 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:43:35 +0000 Astrid 1757060@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well - I did say it was an interesting read, to the anonymous poster. I'm sorry you feel that way but I still wouldn't change my comment. This is not an endorsement of everything that was said by either Alexandra or the people who answered. I could tell you in detail why I thought it interesting and why it resonated with me but as Jenn said, I don't have to post personal details on here to justify anything. And I totally agree that everyone has the right to dress fashionably with the body they have. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757050 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 08:25:27 +0000 Desmo April 1757050@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ugh!<br /> plus-size mentality???? Seriously?!</p> <p>I've been too busy to read the forums for a few weeks and this is what I come back to? Thank you to the ladies with much more level heads than I who managed to reply eloquently and politely. My initial response was unprintable, my second was suck it. I might at this point, after reading some amazing responses, be able to respond a little more rationally.</p> <p>Yes, the post is offensive. Yes, the post was judgemental.</p> <p>Hi, I'm FAT. I've always been fat. I don't have to explain why. Or try to prove that I'm a good fattie, not one of those fat slobs with a bag of potato chips and a Big Gulp always in reach. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHY.</p> <p> Yes, I want fashionable clothes in larger sizes. I deserve to look and feel amazing at my current size. I expect<br /> clothing manufacturers to make fashionable clothes in larger sizes.</p> <p><b>This has actually been very productive</b>. </p> <p>The availability of stylish plus size clothes has gotten so much better over the years. Mainly because of the demands of my fellow plus size women. The ones that refuse to be pushed in a corner. The ones that fight against judgement and shaming.The ones that ignore the rules that others have set out for plus women. The ones that wear whatever their stylish hearts desire. It still should be better. I will continue to make those demands on the fashion industry.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757022 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 04:38:17 +0000 Anonymous 1757022@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I am not a regular commentor, although I read daily; this thread annoys me beyond belief. I have every right to expect to be dressed fashionably, comfortably and beautifully. Isn't that what Angie says 'dress the body you have'.?</p> <p>I don't want to or have to lose weight, and it's exceedingly judgemental that Alexandra thinks that. </p> <p>The bourgeois comments afterwards by multiple people are also crabby. It's not an 'interesting' thread, it's discriminatory. And cliquey. Not that anyone will miss me but I'm done reading this </p> <p>And for the record, I'm a Canadian size 12, usually a 10 in the US. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757019 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 04:24:12 +0000 Echo 1757019@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Em, as I said in my last post, there are figures of obviously overweight women from nearly 30,000 years ago. Surely that was not considered a health concern at the time, as they were likely more fertile than women half their size.&nbsp;</p> <p>Is it possible that while sometimes high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils cause obesity in someone whose genes would have made them thin, while vegetables and meat cause "obesity" (a BMI over a certain number) in those who are genetically predisposed to be larger individuals? In other words, is obesity sometimes damaging and sometimes "natural"?&nbsp;</p> <p>My sister is 5'9" and has had the classic hourglass figure since she was about 14. As she matured, she is naturally around a size 16. When she severely restricts her diet, she can get to a 12, but that involves a LOT of work. I am naturally about an 8, though I can go over that with an unhealthy diet. I have always had less of a difference between waist and hip, and my breasts have never been as large as what my sister had at 15, even while I was pregnant. No one can tell me that my sister and I should be 3# different for each inch she has on me. That would be absurd. She is naturally a larger person than I am, despite growing up in the same home, eating the same diet and being under the same societal pressures.&nbsp;</p> <p>So I'm not saying that obesity is not potentially a health issue. It can be. But what I am saying is that I would never put myself in a position to judge who should and who should not be "overweight".&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757017 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 04:23:47 +0000 Anonymous 1757017@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hah, true, binkie!&nbsp; But I do love the attitude.&nbsp; (The shirt is available in sizes XS - 4XL, BTW.)&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757016 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 04:23:25 +0000 binkle 1757016@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Then perhaps Alexandra could define what she considers "plus" vs "obese." </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757008 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 03:47:15 +0000 em 1757008@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>From a public health POV obesity is indeed a condition that needs to be addressed across society. Diabetes, heart disease, etc etc etc. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757006 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 03:38:41 +0000 binkle 1757006@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I had to chortle a bit, Xtabay, as the t-shirt is on a thin model. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757003 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 03:36:30 +0000 elpgal 1757003@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Chewy, Yes. Several folk I know have had this experience in overt and covert ways. Except it is a grand no-no issue. Realistically, what can can you do though. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757002 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 03:36:21 +0000 binkle 1757002@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you to all who have shared so eloquently and personally here.</p> <p>Alexandra, the thing is, the question "why don't they do XYZ" can sound judgemental of the obese person for NOT treating what another thinks is the underlying cause of their size. Though I'm not sure how one treats genetics (as in bone structure, proportion, height, breast development, ability to develop muscle, etc.). We just don't all have an inner Kate Middleton hiding inside. I'm a tall, galumphing, eastern European peasant. It ain't gonna happen.</p> <p>In any case, as others have pointed out, one can be "plus sized" without being obese. </p> <p>Myself? I acheived size 10-12 earlier this year (145 at 5'9") after many wasted decades of self doubt and torture and yo-yoing. How? Leukemia and thyroid cancer. My doctors did not encourage me to remain at this fashionable weight. Fortunately, I have gained some weight and they are happy, and so am I.</p> <p> This very worthwhile conversation reminds me of two things:<br /> 1. Some teen magazine from my youth, in the early 70's, that recommended an ideal weight of 100 lbs for your first 5', and 3 lbs for every inch thereafter. Lol whut as the kids say.</p> <p>2. A Doonesbury cartoon from the Jane Fonda workout era. It's after hours, the studio is closed, and Jane is in the office with the (black) cleaning lady. Jane tells the woman that she would do well to come in for a workout session. "I'm too busy," says the woman, " with three jobs and public transportation and a family to support...." "So am I," says Jane. "i'm an actress, mother, wife, and I teach classes all day!". "Yes," says the woman, "but you're as busy as you want to be. I'm as busy as I have to be." </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1757001 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 03:31:44 +0000 Echo 1757001@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Gaylene, your post has made me realize that perhaps my post could be taken as an attack on Alexandra. That was not my intent. It appeared to me that she used her own body, experience and measurements as a reason to think that undiagnosed food "allergies" (in the technical sense, allergies produce immediate and visible reactions, while intolerances can cause things like diarrhea or bloating) caused obesity. What I was trying to say, perhaps not as effectively as intended, was that the relative experience and struggles of a thin person cannot necessarily be extrapolated into the experience of an overweight person. In other words, an ongoing food intolerance that adds 1/2" to a thin person's waistline cannot be interpreted to add 10" to another person's waistline over the course of more time. Food intolerances can cause bloating, digestion issues, and issues with nutrient uptake; food allergies can cause itching, throat closure and anaphylactic shock. But it is mostly unscientifically proven conjecture that says that food intolerance can lead to obesity.&nbsp;</p> <p>The point I was trying to get across was that people who struggle with their weight are in touch with their bodies and have medical providers just as thin people do. They know what makes them feel lousy and what doesn't, and many of them have taken allergy tests for food. The assumption that someone has the "answer" to obesity is fallacious, as if food allergies were proven to cause obesity and an elimination diet caused permanent weight loss without fail, someone would have been wealthy over it by now. "Diagnosing" people one has no knowledge about is an extraordinarily assumptive behaviour.</p> <p>And last, perhaps we need to change the opinion that obesity or overweight is a "condition" that needs "curing". There are artifacts from tens of thousands of years ago showing women with large, rounded bellies and pendulous breasts. Surely those women were not consuming high fructose corn syrup or hydrogenated oils or even wheat. Were undiagnosed food allergies the cause of their obesity as well? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756902 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:53:01 +0000 Alexandra 1756902@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Anon, yes, I've been given a lot to think about and I am still processing it all.</p> <p>I'd like to reiterate that my original post was not judgemental. I look at obesity as a symptom of an underlying medical (or genetic, if you will) issue, such as undiagnosed food intolerance so I don't judge the person any more than I would someone with acute appendicitis. </p> <p>Thank you all for your contributions. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756896 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:17:50 +0000 minimalist 1756896@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Xtabay, that's great!</p> <p>After causing offense in a group, it's healthy for the offending party to provide an effective apology. We'll just have to see if that happens. As always, I'm happy to provide resources if requested, because a lot more is required for an effective apology than most of us are aware of. If you'd like to look it up yourself, John Kador's book and blog are a solid place to start. To his lists of what's required for an apology to be effective, I'd add "demonstrated learning" for this particular situation. Otherwise, the "but everyone's got to start somewhere" defense falls flat.</p> <p>A few unhealthy social fallacies around ways of handling conflict are listed here:<br /> <a href="http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html</a></p> <p>It's frankly terrifying to see a woman trying to suppress other women's expressions of righteous and appropriate anger. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756883 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 21:41:37 +0000 Anonymous 1756883@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Amen to this: </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756880 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 21:28:16 +0000 Gaylene 1756880@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This has been an interesting and enlightening thread--and an emotional one. I'm totally onside with those who maintain size and shape shouldn't be part of the fashion equation and no one should EVER have to justify or explain her size or shape on a fashion forum. Like many, I've been frustrated at fitting into clothing that seemed designed purposely to make me feel bad about my shape (hello, 16" calves and size 11 feet trying to be wedged into a skinny jean) along with "helpful" suggestions like wearing a minimizer bra and a compresssion camisole so my broad back could fit into a designer jacket (pushing my smallish boobs sideways just gave me fat armpits and the compression camisole made my face turn blue from lack of oxygen )</p> <p>But I'm more than a little unsettled by some of the pointed, personal remarks directed at Alexandria for daring to express a thought which underlies much of the attitude towards women's bodies these days. I'm not sure attacking the person, instead of the thought, ever changed anyone's mind. Those YLF members who managed to put aside their emotions long enough to compose a thoughtful, civil response ought to be commended because they've opened a window onto a dark place that haunts many of us. The emotional costs of not feeling good enough to warrant nice clothes are pretty evident here. </p> <p>Fashion needs to be more inclusive, but we obviously have a lot of work to do to get rid of some entrenched attitudes. Towards that end, I hope Alexandria continues to feel welcomed into the YLF community and every YLF member feels she can express herself honestly, without fear of personal attack, as long as she does it with civility and respect. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756850 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 20:02:08 +0000 rachylou 1756850@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>So... I will point out that at the beginning, Alexandra talked about seeing weight as an indicator of underlying medical issues. And many, number one being myself, talked about this. </p> <p>So I want to say now, the thing is, as a professional patient...the medical fixes aren't that great. Miraculous sometimes, but still not great. And when you go to work on some of them, focusing on the weight part can be a big mistake. Like my neighbor, who put so much focus on diet - she couldn't actually hold down a job after she got medication for her vertigo finally. No job could accommodate her eating schedule.</p> <p>And come to it, my own doctor for several years kept telling me to get a new job to accommodate my eating schedule. Like this would be a simple thing. For one, I'd lose medical coverage... and until Obamacare, yes, that probably would have been forever. So what is that - a few weeks to live left without insulin? Would I have been able to survive long enough to figure out some sort of government welfare program?</p> <p>Sure, it's important to stay positive and not be a downer. I don't want to be mean. A person has to try. But it has to be pointed out. And I've taken a lot of my medical support team to task about it and made them cry and reminded them of their own horrors navigating the system themselves. Which ironically they'd forget, and some of their own stories were pretty horrific.</p> <p>Anyways. Just shooting the breeze now.</p> <p>... But having something to wear out of the house, you know, that's a little balm that goes a long way to facing down these struggles. That's why, for example, Locks for Love makes everyone cry when they think about it. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756806 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 18:05:24 +0000 approprio 1756806@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>What an extraordinary thread. I've been following closely since the outset, unsure whether I have anything constructive to add, but...</p> <p><b>Sheila,</b> I fully understand the point you're trying to make, but the fashion industry is very much at fault here and deserves no sympathy whatsoever.&nbsp;</p> <p>There is some truth in your remark that designing for different body shapes requires different skills and knowledge, and grading up isn't going to work a lot of the time. But what you say about needing "double the material" is incorrect. It can be true for the home dressmaker, but it sure as eggs isn't for an industrial process. When it comes to wastage at that level, size has nothing to do with it.</p> <p>I think it's incredibly important that designers truly understand the people they are designing for and cater for their practical needs as well as their natural desire to look their best. Western fashion is very bad at doing that for <i>any</i> of us, regardless of our size or body shape. Instead, it supplies us with an endless stream of unattainable images and empty promises and then shames us for not measuring up to them.</p> <p>Designers <b><i>can</i></b> address these kinds of issues, but only through active engagement with their client base. This can <b>only</b> happen if people are empowered enough to join in that conversation. I remember when Beth Ditto did a range of clothes, she was very specific about certain aspects of fit that only someone of her body shape would fully understand. As someone who designs as well as makes clothes, without that input I know I would struggle to meet her needs because I don't know them as well as she does.&nbsp;</p> <p>It doesn't happen when the overriding discourse is that we constantly have to change ourselves to fit some arbitrary beauty standard, which almost none of us have any hope of ever achieving. So I say we should keep on lobbying. It's fashion that needs to change, not us, but it will only change if we change the conversation. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756794 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 17:23:09 +0000 chewyspaghetti 1756794@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes elpgal. I feel this at every interview I have for a job- even though appearance shouldn't matter. I had a job at a trendy clothing store in high school, and when I brought in my application the assistant manager gathered the staff around and asked them if they thought I was pretty enough to work there. (Not in front of me, but one of the salesgirls told me afterward). </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/question-about-plus-size-mentality/page/5#post-1756787 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:36:16 +0000 elpgal 1756787@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This is all very interesting to me and I am learning a lot. I know this discussion is about bodies and clothes but I wonder have any of you experienced discrimination and judgement based on how pretty your face looks? This was a common theme when I was growing up in India. People were much more tolerant of weight as long as you were pretty. </p>